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Hi Vapers I'm new to DIY juice making and have just oredered some ball bearings 9.5mm carbon steel. Which I plan to sterise and ultrasonic clean.before use. I've ordered these for the reason being that I plan to add these to a bottle of home brew so when I shake the bottle it will give me a more effective shake ( much like a spray can). has anyone tried this before? and what where the results. tia
 
Ah good point. I guess I would remove the liquid Using a Large pipette. And then once the bottle is empty of juice I would fill the bottle with water and shake then empty into a fine mesh strainer. for larger quantities I have ordrered a wired protien shaker mixing ball. My only concern at the moment is that as I use glass bottles ( as i heat steep in a ultrasonic cleaner) is that I may end up with glass fragments in the juice. hence ordering carbon steel ball bearings. fingers crossed it goes well. the joys of diy.
 

StillWaters

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People sure go to a lot of effort to mix juice. I shake a bottle. Some I vape right away, others, I put in a cabinet when I'm done.
I'm with you... Shake it and store it if you can't vape straight away. Guess I'm just lazy, but I really can't see the point in all these gyrations.
 

NGAHaze

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I'm not sure about the effectiveness of this or even the necessity for that matter but for one thing, I'd be concerned about the carbon steel rusting ... I'm thinking Stainless would be a better choice here, imho.
 

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I'm not sure about the effectiveness of this or even the necessity for that matter but for one thing, I'd be concerned about the carbon steel rusting ... I'm thinking Stainless would be a better choice here, imho.
Yep... If you've gotta do it, might as well do it all the way.
 

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I would definitely not use ball bearing balls in a glass bottle. As mentioned, if you have to use ball bearing balls, make sure they are either stainless steel, or the more expensive option, ceramic. In addition, I've tried steeping in my UC with build in heater, without any success, even after hours of sonic showers and heat. I think the crockpot method to be more effective in speeding up the steeping process.
 

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Will be interesting seeing what happens. PG/VG is a LOT denser than liquified hydrocarbons in a spray can. I have a feeling it won't rattle like a a can of paint.


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Synphul

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I've seen some people use a magnetic mixer/stirrer. Several different plans out there, many involving a rare earth magnet glued to a cheap pc case fan (for rotational motor) then using a stir bar inside the container. They have coated stir bars that won't nick/break the glass, they use them in glass beakers all the time.


This one they're using to mix shellacs and varnishes but people have used the same basic method to stir their ejuice. It would be a lot safer than a ball bearing inside glass bottles. Some people just shake and let their juice rest. I've seen equipment in professional mixing labs that use devices which are a combination of mixers with heating elements underneath to control temps and mix juice batches.

No evidence that the way most people do it at home is any worse off but there has to be some reasoning behind it or labs wouldn't go to the trouble. Thermal controlled mixing vats are likely much more expensive than paint can shakers found at home improvement stores, if shaking were just as effective I'd think they'd go that route. Unless they're speeding up the process to get batches out the door or something.

Personally I've still been less than stellar at diy juice making though may look into building one of those stir machines like in the vid. If nothing else because I'm lazy and beats the hell out of vigorous shaking :p I saw one vid of a guy who strapped his bottle to a reciprocating saw. I have one so that would definitely be an option but it shook it so much it turned his juice to muddy looking froth. Maybe overdid it with too much of a good thing lol.
 

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Ah good point. I guess I would remove the liquid Using a Large pipette. And then once the bottle is empty of juice I would fill the bottle with water and shake then empty into a fine mesh strainer. for larger quantities I have ordrered a wired protien shaker mixing ball. My only concern at the moment is that as I use glass bottles ( as i heat steep in a ultrasonic cleaner) is that I may end up with glass fragments in the juice. hence ordering carbon steel ball bearings. fingers crossed it goes well. the joys of diy.


Disregard, I skipped over the part you mentioned. My bad!
 

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It's a good idea for larger bottles, I've thought of doing the same thing but I mix lots of 10-15ml bottles of different recipes and don't mix anything larger than 30ml so there is no need. But if I used vg based nic(I don't) I'd definately drop a marble or something round and heavy in to aid in shaking. If I made larger batches of juice I'd do it.

There are nice advantages and really no downside. Chipping glass is a minimal concern if using in anything higher than 50% VG. The viscosity would would help keep the ball from moving too fast.
 

T702

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I like the idea of ball bearings! I'm just starting and I'm ordering a smagnetic stirrer hotplate, like the one in the video, but it's a hotplate as well. I thought it was a good idea but now we're kinda having a debate about it...we'll see, I'm gonna try. I can't stand the idea of waiting a month to steep. I think you should defiantly go with stainless steel or ceramic for the bearings, steel will rust, may react weird to some of the Chem in flavoring etc. You can boil watter, toss them in to heat up and use them hot to add heat while mixing juice. .if your not against adding heat to your juice, I'd be interest in your opinions on that as well. ..good luck!
 

Comfygirl

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From my beer making days and many chemistry classes I learned that glass is very fragile. If you use anything harder than the glass in the glass you will chip the glass. You may not see the glass chips but they are there wrecking havoc on your coils. This is also important if you recycle your glass bottles, especially if you apply heat.
 

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A though on getting the ball bearing out of the bottle.I would use a rare earth magnet and grab the ball with the magnet on the out side of the glass and roll it up and out..
I wounder how quick the ball will react in the viscous liquid?I do not think it would fly around like they do in a rattle can of paint,E liquid is thicker..
 

Foggz

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It's a good thing to think things through... sometimes tho I tend to 'over' think things. Keep it simple and see how it goes .. adjust as you go along!
 

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