Best all around box for beginner

Flyhigh92 · Jun 1, 2016

Well to start off hi everyone new here and relatively new to vaping. I'm a avid smoker and want to quit at about a pack and a half a day I really need too. I've had pens in the past but always end up losing them and feel like I'm missing something so I think I want a box for the feel of a pack and harder to lose lol. Please help with a recommendation cheaper better but want a good all around vape probably max of 100-150 for the right one that will last me because I'm really gonna stick to it this time! hope to hear back soon looking forward to it and trying to get myself a birthday present before Friday thanks

Neunerball · Jun 1, 2016

Flyhigh92 said:
Well to start off hi everyone new here and relatively new to vaping. I'm a avid smoker and want to quit at about a pack and a half a day I really need too. I've had pens in the past but always end up losing them and feel like I'm missing something so I think I want a box for the feel of a pack and harder to lose lol. Please help with a recommendation cheaper better but want a good all around vape probably max of 100-150 for the right one that will last me because I'm really gonna stick to it this time! hope to hear back soon looking forward to it and trying to get myself a birthday present before Friday thanks

There's the iStick Pico Kit by Eleaf, or the Evic VTC Mini kit. Both require a 18650 battery, like a LG HG2. The battery can be charged via USB. However, on the long run, you want to get a suitable charger.

JERUS · Jun 1, 2016

Second the Pico, nice and compact, goes to 75w which should carry you a long way. It's like $30 + battery purchase. Then of course you'll need a tank. If you're a smoker, how do you smoke? Personally I guess I was "doing it wrong" as I always just strait inhaled, but most will suck it into their mouth then inhale what is in their mouth. If that's how you did it we call that Mouth to Lung (MTL), and a good tank would be something like the Nautilus or GS Tank. If you strait inhale it's known as Direct to Lung (DL) and there's a plethora of good tanks for that.

Anyways, Pico at $30, then I'd pick up something like a Samsung 25r or LG HD2C battery (about $5 each). Then might want to grab 2 batteries and an external charger so you can just swap when the battery runs out instead of having to charge it up through USB. Then for the tank Nautilus($20) would be a great starter if you like MTL. Might want to grab some extra coils while you're at it though, they tend to last about a week (you get 2 with the initial tank purchase).

All in all without an extra battery or extra coils and no external charger you'd be looking at 30+5+20= $55 plus probably around $10 shipping ordering from those 2 sites I linked (BTW you may be able to find cheaper suppliers, those are just websites I regularly use, usually good prices and US so shipping it's there in a few days, unlike china which takes 2-3 weeks at least). Add on an additional battery an a decent charger($20), additional battery($5), and extra coils($15) and that's about $40 additional, so ~$105 and you'd be set for a while minus juice. So $65-105 to get set up with this.

Neunerball · Jun 1, 2016

JERUS said:
Second the Pico, nice and compact, goes to 75w which should carry you a long way. It's like $30 + battery purchase. Then of course you'll need a tank. If you're a smoker, how do you smoke? Personally I guess I was "doing it wrong" as I always just strait inhaled, but most will suck it into their mouth then inhale what is in their mouth. If that's how you did it we call that Mouth to Lung (MTL), and a good tank would be something like the Nautilus or GS Tank. If you strait inhale it's known as Direct to Lung (DL) and there's a plethora of good tanks for that.

Anyways, Pico at $30, then I'd pick up something like a Samsung 25r or LG HD2C battery (about $5 each). Then might want to grab 2 batteries and an external charger so you can just swap when the battery runs out instead of having to charge it up through USB. Then for the tank Nautilus($20) would be a great starter if you like MTL. Might want to grab some extra coils while you're at it though, they tend to last about a week (you get 2 with the initial tank purchase).

All in all without an extra battery or extra coils and no external charger you'd be looking at 30+5+20= $55 plus probably around $10 shipping ordering from those 2 sites I linked (BTW you may be able to find cheaper suppliers, those are just websites I regularly use, usually good prices and US so shipping it's there in a few days, unlike china which takes 2-3 weeks at least). Add on an additional battery an a decent charger($20), additional battery($5), and extra coils($15) and that's about $40 additional, so ~$105 and you'd be set for a while minus juice. So $65-105 to get set up with this.

The Pico Kit comes with a Melo 3 tank.

JERUS · Jun 1, 2016

Neunerball said:
The Pico Kit comes with a Melo 3 tank.

Aye, but it's a DL tank? One of MANY options if that's the route they want to go.

Neunerball · Jun 1, 2016

JERUS said:
Aye, but it's a DL tank? One of MANY options if that's the route they want to go.

It's kind of a bad DL tank (too restricted for me). However, IMO it can be used as a MTL with the 0.5 Ohm coils and the AFC adjusted accordingly.

Flyhigh92 · Jun 1, 2016

I think I might be a direct to lung smoker. I smoke cigs way faster than everyone I know if that helps and I take big drags. So most of you would go with the evic and I guess I'll probably just get 2 tanks so I can figure it out.

Neunerball · Jun 1, 2016

Flyhigh92 said:
I think I might be a direct to lung smoker. I smoke cigs way faster than everyone I know if that helps and I take big drags. So most of you would go with the evic and I guess I'll probably just get 2 tanks so I can figure it out.

IMO, both mods are excellent devices. It's up to you to decide, which to get.

Flyhigh92 · Jun 1, 2016

I meant most of you said the pico lol my bad

JERUS · Jun 1, 2016

Flyhigh92 said:
I meant most of you said the pico lol my bad

Well most is 2...

The Evic mini is probably one of the most popular mods out there for single battery setups, and rightfully so. The Pico is newer but I know at least a few people that have replaced their evics with it, and I know I love my Pico. It's just nice and small and easy to pocket. As Neuner said, both are great and you can't really go wrong with either.

One thing worth mentioning to anyone new to using 18650 batteries though, stick to Sony, Samsung, and LG batteries. All the other brands out there are lower quality, often higher priced, and usually lying about the specs of the battery (will be labeled 35amp when it's really a 15amp rating).

Flyhigh92 · Jun 1, 2016

The only thing is I think I kinda want a bigger one when I tried before it always felt like I was missing something in pockets and want to replace That pack of cigs

JERUS · Jun 1, 2016

I'll try and get a picture up later comparing it to a pack of cigarettes, but the thing is you have to remember the tank on top of it. I'd say it's probably the same as a pack of 100's minus a little notch above the battery compartment.

Flyhigh92 · Jun 3, 2016

I think I want that racing yellow evic with the stripe where's a good place to get it

Flyhigh92 · Jun 3, 2016

And if the tank sucks that comes with it can I just get the box and then get two better tanks

Waltheraustin · Jun 3, 2016

I went pico and then picked another tank as I didn't like the melo personally but I guess I know now since it was a DL. Pico has been great so far!

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Neunerball · Jun 3, 2016

Flyhigh92 said:
I think I want that racing yellow evic with the stripe where's a good place to get it

You're talking Evic VT?! With a build in battery, that will fail eventually. You'll have to look for a new mod then. However, with 8/8/2016 approaching, 99% of all Vaping products are gone. With a replaceable battery, chances are better, to use your mod longer.

Waltheraustin · Jun 3, 2016

So the products will still be there for a couple more years though, right?

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Waffle Baron · Jun 4, 2016

Here is a great starter mod and tank as well and a decent price for a combo
http://www.myvaporstore.com/Innokin-Coolfire4-TC100W-Aethon-iSubV-Starter-Kit-p/ink-cf480.htm

Flyhigh92 · Jun 7, 2016

What about the ipv5 looked at one at the store
And anyone know a good place if you think it's a good one to snag one thankss

Whitesoxfan2579 · Jun 7, 2016

I'm very satisfied with my Vapeberri kit after a month of use. Everythings adjustable, holds a charge well, tank is large enough for all day use for me, small and light enough to be easy to carry. Well made kit IMHO!

AmandaD · Jun 7, 2016

Flyhigh92 said:
What about the ipv5 looked at one at the store
And anyone know a good place if you think it's a good one to snag one thankss

I've read of some issues with this. You're safer to purchase something that's been around a little longer and has been tried and tested by many.

As for all box mods being around for at least 2 years - I doubt it.

Flyhigh92 · Jun 7, 2016

What about the taro 200 vtc I like the size of both better

skt239 · Jun 8, 2016

I have the IPV5 and really like it, you can get one at ecig.com right now for something like $40. However, as mentioned by @AmandaD , it's not without its issues. I personally would check out the cool fire 100w TC kit. It's got a built in battery, comes with a good tank and has all the features you will need if you decided you like higher wattages or want to try out temp control. It's made by innokin who is known for their quality and well made batteries. You can probably do better than the price listed below but have a look at the link to check out the kit. Good luck

http://www.myvaporstore.com/Innokin-Coolfire4-TC100W-Aethon-iSubV-Starter-Kit-p/ink-cf480.htm

SoulVaper · Jun 9, 2016

I have to agree with @Neunerball the Evic VTC is probably the best box for a beginner! And the Evic VT i think it's a grate option to you don't need to bother with having extra battery with you or a charger for the battery is USB charger.

MyMagicMist · Jun 12, 2016

Neunerball said:
With a build in battery, that will fail eventually. You'll have to look for a new mod then. However, with 8/8/2016 approaching, 99% of all Vaping products are gone. With a replaceable battery, chances are better, to use your mod longer.

Seems @Neunerball was attempting to steer them away from the Evic. You may want to consider a box mod that allows you to use replaceable batteries.

http://www.ecig.com/cloupor-gt-80w-box-mod.html This looks like a good option. For myself though I am getting away from regulated mods. That means the mod has a chip or electronic junk in it that can and will foul up. I am looking to mechanical mods.

Here's another decent regulated mod what lets you swap batteries. http://www.ecig.com/smok-r200-mod-stainless.html I have not any drastic issues with any Smok gear I use. That does not imply there will not be, only that so far so good.

This might be a decent mechanical. Though, I would be concerned about venting holes for it. http://www.ecig.com/ohmega-mechanical-mod.html

Neunerball · Jun 12, 2016

MorelyMagicMist said:
Seems @Neunerball was attempting to steer them away from the Evic. You may want to consider a box mod that allows you to use replaceable batteries....

Yes steer away from the Evic VT, not the Evic VTC Mini. Two different mods.

MyMagicMist · Jun 13, 2016

Neunerball said:
Yes steer away from the Evic VT, not the Evic VTC Mini. Two different mods.

They seem different to you, maybe, because one allows use of battery. To me they are both regulated and more similar than I like. For a beginner? I reckon it may be a good mod to start on. Most are that at the least.

Neunerball · Jun 13, 2016

MorelyMagicMist said:
They seem different to you, maybe, because one allows use of battery. To me they are both regulated and more similar than I like. For a beginner? I reckon it may be a good mod to start on. Most are that at the least.

With the FDA regulations, I'd rather buy a mod with the ability to change the battery/batteries.

Flyhigh92 · Jun 14, 2016

I got a hotcig with the Dna chip it was really on sale comes Saturday let u know how I like it

SerenityM · Jun 14, 2016

Evic VTC minis are not bad devices for beginners. Usually people end up buying a different tank, because the one it comes with isn't the best. I believe the newest one has the Cubis on it. Couple customers said they have never ending gurgle problems with it.

SerenityM · Jun 14, 2016

MorelyMagicMist said:
They seem different to you, maybe, because one allows use of battery. To me they are both regulated and more similar than I like. For a beginner? I reckon it may be a good mod to start on. Most are that at the least.

I always like to recommend the VTC over the VT because having a built in battery like in the Evic VT has potential for future problems. With a mod you take the battery out...you don't have to worry about it not charging anymore because usb is broke, or it losing its battery life over time like a cell phone. You can always just buy a new battery or a separate charger rather then a new mod.

MyMagicMist · Jun 14, 2016

SerenityM said:
With a mod you take the battery out...you don't have to worry about it not charging anymore because usb is broke, or it losing its battery life over time like a cell phone. You can always just buy a new battery or a separate charger rather then a new mod.

Kind of my thinking too. When the electronics go out there you are stuck with a paper weight. You have swappable batteries, move the battery/ies to another mod. Got swappable batteries have extra battery/ies on charging to swap with one needing charged. I think, why not eliminate electronics going bad by not having them? Use a mech.

But the question was "best all around box for a noob"? The word best to me implies way too much subjectivity. Vaping is all geared to end user choice. One day I might want a mech, the next I might like a regulated. Which is 'best' for me? You call it tomato, I call it matter, someone else could come along and call it all off. Come to find out, it's all the same apple.

SerenityM · Jun 14, 2016

MorelyMagicMist said:
Kind of my thinking too. When the electronics go out there you are stuck with a paper weight. You have swappable batteries, move the battery/ies to another mod. Got swappable batteries have extra battery/ies on charging to swap with one needing charged. I think, why not eliminate electronics going bad by not having them? Use a mech.

But the question was "best all around box for a noob"? The word best to me implies way too much subjectivity. Vaping is all geared to end user choice. One day I might want a mech, the next I might like a regulated. Which is 'best' for me? You call it tomato, I call it matter, someone else could come along and call it all off. Come to find out, it's all the same apple.

Yeah I agree, they were talking about Evics so I think that's what is of interest at the time.. Every customer I have dealt with I ask a series of questions almost like an interview, because there are so many devices out there and so many personalities.. Its definitely subjective, but it sure is fun trying to help someone find the best mod for THEM. Had an older couple come in once and you would think they would want something simple. But ended up leaving with a sigelei 150 with a tfv4 lol Best all around mod for a noob? Honestly, there is no correct answer, what's best for one person isn't for another.

Flyhigh92 · Jun 26, 2016

Love this Hotcig dx200 it really cool scribe and stuff is hard to figure out but I'll get there. I need
A charger tho for the lipo battery's and don't know what to get

fq06 · Jun 26, 2016

Not sure what you can get from vape shops but cheap and less cheap

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/...act_2S_3S_Lipo_Charger_100_240v_US_Plug_.html
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/...y_P403_LiPoly_LiFe_AC_DC_Battery_Charger.html

You can check the usa warehouses also, look for ac/dc and charing to balance lead

fq06 · Jun 27, 2016

Or this, not bad for the $ with from what I can tell a 2.4a charge.

https://www.vaporworld.biz/w-s-recommendations/hotcig-dx200-rc-battery-charger/

Jenprice · Jun 30, 2016

I too, am new to vaping and I got an aspire Nautilus mini and an MVP 20w. Because I was just getting off the cigarettes I was still a mouth to lung hitter so everything else was just to strong for me. It worked wonderfully and have been cigarette free. I have since moved up and gotten new devices but for me that set up was the best. Just my opinion.

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Best all around box for beginner

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