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Raymo's Boreas RTA First Impression....Coil Build...and Stuff....

AdubbaU

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Received the Alleria and Supreme few days ago, wish I had caught this review before ordering. Both are fantastic, sure I will cave and have a black Boreas ordered next week, so many tanks trying to be smart. I am confident I made good purchase, but if other way around probably would have not ordered the Supreme. Never had a Steam Crave, digging the side air, thinking Boreas and Supreme and rotate on 3rd device.

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Got the BOREAS YESTERDAY in DARK NIGHT MODE....

This is just my quick impression...

Package was intact
No ORINGS broken
Oil smell out of the box
The moving parts in tank are FLAWLESS
SCREWS ARE OK...

Vape quality

I slapped a dual fused CLAPTONS reading at .12 (raymo coils)
Post holes are enough to insert those badboys...
ITS A CHUCKER, @95 watts my sweet spot...
Flavor,vapor chaser, (SUBJECTIVE?)
Currently using the 2.5mm deck using
VG BASE eJUICE..
Thick dense cloud
Wet vape
It can keep up with wicking(as long as you do it right)

Conclusion
Nice,chubby, powerful RDTA, it's worth the price..$35 bucks (I purchased it @ subtanksupply.com)

if you are a dripper looking for that DRIPPER EXPERIENCE In a TANK, BOREAS RDTA will give you that... I'm aware of the SUPREME RDTA gives you a similar experience? MAYBE!!
Can't talk about it, since I still haven't got it...

Overall
BOREAS is a RDTA for ADVANCE USERS ONLY, there's a learning curve using this tank.. Don't jump on this RDTA until you have enough knowledge of RTAS/RDA learn the
basics, until then stay away from this tank...


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ej1024

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It will probably become the V2 of the BOREAS, we shall se


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Did you ask Subtank Supply for a shipping quote? They were doing international cheaper than I could ship an atty to someone.
 

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Got the BOREAS YESTERDAY in DARK NIGHT MODE....

This is just my quick impression...

Package was intact
No ORINGS broken
Oil smell out of the box
The moving parts in tank are FLAWLESS
SCREWS ARE OK...

Vape quality

I slapped a dual fused CLAPTONS reading at .12 (raymo coils)
Post holes are enough to insert those badboys...
ITS A CHUCKER, @95 watts my sweet spot...
Flavor,vapor chaser, (SUBJECTIVE?)
Currently using the 2.5mm deck using
VG BASE eJUICE..
Thick dense cloud
Wet vape
It can keep up with wicking(as long as you do it right)

Conclusion
Nice,chubby, powerful RDTA, it's worth the price..$35 bucks (I purchased it @ subtanksupply.com)

if you are a dripper looking for that DRIPPER EXPERIENCE In a TANK, BOREAS RDTA will give you that... I'm aware of the SUPREME RDTA gives you a similar experience? MAYBE!!
Can't talk about it, since I still haven't got it...

Overall
BOREAS is a RDTA for ADVANCE USERS ONLY, there's a learning curve using this tank.. Don't jump on this RDTA until you have enough knowledge of RTAS/RDA learn the
basics, until then stay away from this tank...


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VAPE IT
Nice job on the review EJ!! Nice point of view...
 
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fckaugust8th

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@raymo2u great review as always! Roxy, glad to see you here and read about your creation. I'm not much into fog banks, I mostly MTL and enjoy flavor vs. clouds. Roxy , you mentioned single coil on this bad boy, do you happen to have a picture with that and the wicking? thank you both raymo and roxy, great job.
 

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@raymo2u great review as always! Roxy, glad to see you here and read about your creation. I'm not much into fog banks, I mostly MTL and enjoy flavor vs. clouds. Roxy , you mentioned single coil on this bad boy, do you happen to have a picture with that and the wicking? thank you both raymo and roxy, great job.

Sure. You can m2l this:
 
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fckaugust8th

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Thank you roxy, it looks like you're restricting the air flow somewhat by placing a fairly large coil and lots of wicking. Can you do this with the Aleria as well?
 

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Thank you roxy, it looks like you're restricting the air flow somewhat by placing a fairly large coil and lots of wicking. Can you do this with the Aleria as well?

You probably can do it on any Velocity deck. On Alleria though you will need to split the tails and put them in the wick slots. I also wonder if juice would drip off the wick into the airholes? Boreas is maybe better designed for single coil due to side airflow (along with the Aromamizer, Supreme and Train).
 
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fckaugust8th

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You probably can do it on any Velocity deck. On Alleria though you will need to split the tails and put them in the wick slots. I also wonder if juice would drip off the wick into the airholes? Boreas is maybe better designed for single coil due to side airflow (along with the Aromamizer, Supreme and Train).
That is great info, I was considering the Alleria due to its smaller profile and let's be frank, it would be cool to have a glass inner sleeve. Now all I have to do is convince the people making the Boreas to make a shorter chimney:headbang: I will try the Boreas and see, I am tempted by the Alleria too, but I'll wait another month, maybe the Merlin will make an appearance. :drunk:
 

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That is great info, I was considering the Alleria due to its smaller profile and let's be frank, it would be cool to have a glass inner sleeve. Now all I have to do is convince the people making the Boreas to make a shorter chimney:headbang: I will try the Boreas and see, I am tempted by the Alleria too, but I'll wait another month, maybe the Merlin will make an appearance. :drunk:

The Alleria is a flavor beast. And it's pretty small already. I don't think it needs a shorter chimney TBH.
 
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fckaugust8th

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The Alleria is a flavor beast. And it's pretty small already. I don't think it needs a shorter chimney TBH.
I was thinking about a shorter set-up for the Boreas, I like the smaller tank and a 8 ml tank would be ginormous!
 
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fckaugust8th

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@roxynoodle , to recap, you're saying the Boreas is easier to build single coil but the Alleria is smaller and a flavor beast. Could we just marry the two and get a shorter, easy to built a single coil on tank? Oh, wait, the did have a baby, his name is Marlin! When will he be born?
 

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@roxynoodle , to recap, you're saying the Boreas is easier to build single coil but the Alleria is smaller and a flavor beast. Could we just marry the two and get a shorter, easy to built a single coil on tank? Oh, wait, the did have a baby, his name is Marlin! When will he be born?

I don't know when he will be born. I thought he would be by now.
 

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After checking out the Alleria @whiplash leon thought it would be nice to have the Boreas checked out...this is the second device Ive gotten to review for free, just so you guys know(Its not changing my view in any way).

I had some pretty strong feelings against the RTA when first looking at it online, I read through the creation thread on ECF by Roxynoodles and read as much as I could about it elsewhere....still didnt have a good outlook on the Boreas.

I received the package in the mail in the 24th and got it at the end of the day as I didnt think I was getting anything in and only checked the box around 4pm...I was pretty surprised when I saw something under the lid. I tore up the packaging and saw that it was the Boreas....I was slightly anxious to get into it, okay I was a bit excited...I feel even shit vapemail is exciting lol. I picked it up and the feelings that I felt before slowly started to dwindle away, it started looking gorgeous, it gleamed and shined and was very smooth all around. The threads were very smooth and cut very cleanly, there is barely a seam where parts meet, the craftsmanship is even better then the Alleria and the Griffin....
The package is the same as the Alleria's, which Im a fan of since I love to stack and shelf my device boxes. Included in the Package is The Boreas, a spare Velocity Deck, a Spare Glass, and a AllenKey/Full O-ring Rebuild Kit. I really like how Augvape is including all the Origns and screws with the devices they are selling, it adds more value to the over all product in my eye's and you wont need to go looking for matching parts since you already have them.
This RTA is 25mm wide, Holds 8ml+ in juice and have a 17mm wide build deck with Aromamizer Style Wicking...these are the Headline Features.

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The Boreas disassembled....There are many parts but they are large and hard to miss if you drop any. Every peice is well machined and there were no flakes, burrs, or kinks in any of the parts on this RTA. There was no presence of machine oil or smell either, another thumbs up to Augvape here!
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I find the way the base seats into the chamber really interesting, it cant be place any way but the way it needs to and you can easily spin it until it drops in correctly. When its seated you can use the very bottom section to secure it into the chamber. This is a very quick change method for the decks-which is nice since you can have a completely different build in the spare and simply change it out quickly.

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Onto the Juice Control/AFC....
This I didnt fully understand when I first through the tank together, I didnt read anything or even look at it as I was in a rush. After getting to know it and seeing how it all works I find it to be a great working system and gives you many different adjustments to any juice or vaping style.

The AFC is built into the Chamber that slips over the Deck and a Ring that slips over it. The action is smooth like oil on glass...its a pretty amazing feel and it does have a stopper! There are 4 holes for the Airflow and you can close them down one by one or close them down slightly in each setting. When your adjusting the Airflow Control you are also adjusting the Juice Control, the more open the AFC is the more open the JC is.

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On top of the "Adjuster for the AFC/JC is this Ring, this ring has 2 different option for Juice Control 2 slots that are wider then the other 2 slots. You can choose which option depending on how thick your eliquid is but this change can only be made with the Glass taken off. I run my Boreas with the Largest Slots used.

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The Top Fill on this is very similar to the Alleria, Griffin and many other RTA's but the Slots seem much wider so you can actually just DUMP your juice in...and thank Roxynoodles for that this beast holds some juice! the only complaint for this RTA is the last part and piece....the cap that covers the fill section, it has no cuts or edging on it to grip and I have had the glass unscrew before the cap did...SO DO NOT OVER-TIGHTEN IT!!!

Onto the RTA Comparison!
The Alleria RTA, the Griffin, and the Boreas...I didnt have my VCMT on hand-Sorry Guys!!!
The Boreas is 25mm so its wider then the Griffin but the Griffin holds up to the VCMT which is in the 25mm Category and why I listed it as such. The Alleria I through in since its Augvapes other RTA ;)

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The Boreas Deck vs Griffin Deck, the second picture is the Boreas Deck vs the Actual Velocity RDA Base...
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Onto the First Build...

I wanted to push its limits and see what I could fit in it after seeing crazy claims on ECF by Roxy and others....So I went to the laboratory and brewed up some 2 x 20KA1/40N80 Fused Claptons. When wrapping them up I decided to make them monsters and wide...just to test. I made them 3.5mm Wide and I used 6 Wraps on them and angled them. The fit right in the Postholes, which already impressed me and I didnt think they would fit into the chamber...the deck slipped right into place and didnt give a "Short" message so I pull it out and wicked it quickly. Remember I was in a RUSH!!! I basically tossed cotton at the deck and through the RTA together lol I wet the cotton, close the AFC/JC and then filled the tank all the way up....I dont think my wick and/or fill amount was good for it in any way since I got a bit of juice leaking through the Air Holes when I opened the AFC up, it only happened when I first filled it and not since.

I normally have all 4 holes open but then have them slightly cut down, so the JC is wide open and the AFC feels more like 3 Holes Closed....I love this amount of adjustability! The AFC is Airier then the Griffin by a long shot when wide open and the Juice wicks better then anything Ive previously used, I have yet to even feel that a draw that could get dry...amazing! I was terrified it would be like the Aromamizer and dryhit every draw...It gives a Wet Vape every Vape...which I love. I pumped the .11 Build all the way up to 240w on a SMY God Box and it was wicking like it was at 60w on the Griffin...Yet it doesnt leak or flood. This is a great design and I hope to try more working versions of it ahead!

Here's the Build:
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NOTE: I love how you can use the Naked Deck on mods to work on it or glow the coils! I didnt notice the deck these coils are on have the smaller Juice Ports....and it still wicked more then I needed!

Could almost push a pencil through them bitches!



Conclusion...
This tank isnt going to be for everyone...this isnt going to be for the Kayfun'ers or the Squapey's...This RTA will be for the person who doesnt want any god damn issues with wicking or "what will fit?" or wants something that they can throw a series build in and not worry about it not wicking. This RTA is for any person that builds coils and wants something that is a workhorse. This is my Favorite RTA so far and I would personally thank Roxy for designing such a piece of functional art...Im very glad Leon sent this my way or I would still be looking at it funny...Now Im looking at it funny but in a different way :p

I feel everyone should get a order for this thing...you will not be disappointed!

Leon, I still want a Red Anodized/SS Version!!!!!!
Mine leaks like a sieve thru the air holes!
 

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Mine leaks like a sieve thru the air holes!
Then your either filling it wrong or wicking it wrong.
1.) Tilt upside down and wait a second or 2
2.) Close JC/AFC
3.) Fill
4.)Open to 2 or 3 Holes
5.) Immediatly take a draw and another (It shouldnt feel over juiced now)

This should take care of all your issues if it has to do with filling it, try using more cotton next go around and try pushing down on it a bit over the wicking holes. Also try using the 2mm wick holed deck and closing down to 3 Holes, the more the AFC is closed off the more your juice control is closed off.
 

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I had to adjust the AFC/JC on mine.

I took the BOREAS apart.
Cleaned it. Just made it easier to handle and to see everything
Let it dry.

When I put the AFC on I positioned the AFC so all 4 Air holes were completely open with the air holes on the base
I then put the JC Ring in place making sure that the Juice Flow openings were fully open to match Air Flow.
Closed AFC and made sure that the JC closed completely when I closed AFC.
I may have fiddle farted with it a bit just to make sure JC was closing fully when I closed Air Flow. I probably fiddle farted more then I needed to as once the AFC and JC were in place it just worked as it is designed.

Then - I made sure I was following Raymo's and Roxy's instruction to a "T" when refilling.

I have not had any issues after 3 Refills.
 

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It's so damn simple
FILL IT
FLIP IT
OPEN IT
FLIP IT
VAPE IT...
The pooling of EJUICE will go away as soon as you start VAPING on it, they already SAID that shit over n over again...
If you have LEAKING/CRYING/SALIVATING Whatever...
Check ur ORINGS
Check ur wicking
Check ur methods
And if that doesn't stop it..
MAYBE ITS DEFECTIVE, MAYBE or
USER ERROR✈️


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Rconrad

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I had to adjust the AFC/JC on mine.

I took the BOREAS apart.
Cleaned it. Just made it easier to handle and to see everything
Let it dry.

When I put the AFC on I positioned the AFC so all 4 Air holes were completely open with the air holes on the base
I then put the JC Ring in place making sure that the Juice Flow openings were fully open to match Air Flow.
Closed AFC and made sure that the JC closed completely when I closed AFC.
I may have fiddle farted with it a bit just to make sure JC was closing fully when I closed Air Flow. I probably fiddle farted more then I needed to as once the AFC and JC were in place it just worked as it is designed.

Then - I made sure I was following Raymo's and Roxy's instruction to a "T" when refilling.

I have not had any issues after 3 Refills.
Thanks dude. I already know pressure dynamics but havent tried this yet.
 

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Thanks dude. I already know pressure dynamics but havent tried this yet.

Just lending a helping hand. Was not stating anything about your knowledge, or lack of knowledge, of pressure dynamics .

When I first got my BOREAS and took it apart to wash I was in such a hurry to vape on it that I did not pay attention as to how I put the JC back on and I had a small leak. My issue was user error. May not be the case in your situation and does not reflect on your knowledge of vaping at all. I was just trying to help you out.

I am a total rookie at this stuff but am willing to share my experience in the hope it helps someone

Roxy helped me sort out my leak issue.

However, I am glad I was able to provide a different perspective even if it may or may not have helped you. It may help someone else.
 

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The Air Flow and Pull is so smooth on the BOREAS. With some of my tanks I feel like I'm gonna bust a lung or two. I only have two lungs. Too old for that stuff! :confused:

But, with the BOREAS. It is just Pull, Flavor, Clouds!
 

Rconrad

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Just lending a helping hand. Was not stating anything about your knowledge, or lack of knowledge, of pressure dynamics .

When I first got my BOREAS and took it apart to wash I was in such a hurry to vape on it that I did not pay attention as to how I put the JC back on and I had a small leak. My issue was user error. May not be the case in your situation and does not reflect on your knowledge of vaping at all. I was just trying to help you out.

I am a total rookie at this stuff but am willing to share my experience in the hope it helps someone

Roxy helped me sort out my leak issue.

However, I am glad I was able to provide a different perspective even if it may or may not have helped you. It may help someone else.
I really appreciate it. I wasnt referring to you when i spoke about the pressure-flipping the tank etc-but i appreciate your comment but have yet to try it but will soon so again thanks my man!
 

Rconrad

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DAMN! So i wicked the 2.5 mm deck and ive had zero leaks. Not even an fn drop- which makes no sense because the 2 mm deck leaked like a mofo. Also-im using all vg so it makes even less sense except on the 2mm deck, one of the posts is slanted inward. Im just curious if anyone knows if/how the slight inward slant would cause it to leak? Im loving this leak free beast now!
 

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