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Leo and Phoebe (I DID NOT NAME THEM!!!) brother and sister
 

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Aww, thank you!! She is a complete sweetheart, and so is he....but he loves to scrap with me constantly (I instigate lol)
 

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@CaFF , I am so very sorry to hear about your kitty’s passing. Thankfully we now have better food and medicine at our disposal, extending cats' live, and giving them a better quality of life.

Being a first time cat guardian, I wasn't aware that most cats, until recent years, succumbed to renal failure. Renal disease is an insidious one. I thought that Boo was drinking and urinating more due to the summertime heat, but, a blood panel a couple of weeks ago indicated that she was/is in early stage renal failure. I am so glad that this was caught early! She is now given 1 ml of Benazepril daily.

This will be 2 part and somewhat long winded - I apologize in advance.
I'm not sure how old she is, but if your vet is willing to teach you, you can get a bag of fluids and help her kidneys perform better with doing sub-q fluids. Most vets don't offer to teach their patients because most won't ask. But I say ask. When I asked they had me bring in a calm cat (but your sick kitty would do) and its far easier than pilling ANY cat. Assuming you're not horribly squeamish of needles. If our vet tries to charge you more than $20 for a bag of fluid and some needles - ask around at other vets in the area. My vet charges $6 per bag of fluids and I can get the syringes from them for $5 for 10 - 28g needles or I can get the same amount for $1.99 at the farm store up the road. So its not as expensive as most will make it out to be. Even if you can get them to write a script for it, you can order it online from 1800petmeds or jefferspet (i think) and others for around $12 or so shipped. It can be stored in your kitchen cabinet, doesn't need to be refrigerated or really special handled other than an alcohol swab to the port when you draw fluid. But really that was it.

My last cat - prior to adopting Biggie in NY and then moving to IN where I now have uh 32 inside and an alternating colony outside of 14-21 - depending on weather. (In winter we get around 20-21 every day, in warmer weather there are more farm cats who are well fed so we don't see as many in summer), but Darla, the pain in the ass that she was - I'd rescued her from the SPCA in Rochester NY in 2001, she moved with the ex and I and a dog back to the area I grew up in. Darla was always super healthy, then one day she wasn't. I called the vet as soon as she started running a fever. That was a Thursday. The vet was out and the office told me to call in the next morning. Friday AM the Darla's fever was very high, and she was panting. I called the vet back. I knew something was WRONG. They told me "its just the URI going around," I said this is NOT a URI, she's got a very high fever and she's panting. They refused to see me and at the time it was the only vet within a 75 mile one way drive. I couldn't afford vet appt and gas $ to go to an emergency vet 120 miles away. They scheduled an appointment for Monday. I took her in for them opening Monday morning - 6 hours early for her appt. I take her in and show them the dying cat. The vet takes us to an exam room and tells me I've CLEARLY abused and neglected the cat by failing to bring her in when she started showing signs months ago (he'd just seen her not even 2 weeks prior to that and said she was fine). This vet had a history among friends "he's the only vet in the area and he repeatedly refuses to see animals when they're sick and rather insists you wait to be seen only then its too late, and its always with cats." In NY I can record a conversation without the other party knowing as long as one party consents to the taping - since I did it, I consented. I had recorded his nurse telling me on Thursday he wasn't in and to call on Friday, and I recorded the Friday call(s) and the insistence by them it was nothing to worry about and THEM telling me I'd get in on Monday. Darla was put to sleep on Monday morning to ease her suffering from acute multi-organ failure that a necropsy I insisted on and paid for out of pocket said could have been treated and her life made far less miserable than it was during the 72hrs of delay by the vet.

My recording, was proof enough that I wasn't at fault - the vet tried to have me charged with animal cruelty - except the local cops who came to the office, looked at me, knew me and my family and said there wasn't enough evidence to charge me, especially when I handed them copies of the recordings. Showing I made every effort to have her seen. I informed others to start recording their calls with him and his office. Within 7 months there was enough evidence against the office to have them shut down pending investigation by the state vet licensing board. The investigation was never completed as he "decided to retire, and sell his practice." Suddenly that was fine with the state board, except others came out of the woodwork reporting similar situations. "My cat was never a priority, I always had to wait 72-96 hours for a cat appointment but if my dog ate something she shouldn't have I could get seen within an hour, and it was the same doctor for both animals." The state ended up pulling licenses for several vet techs because they went along with his hatred of cats - which came out later when he was sued civilly for damages to one family's entire cat population - 10 cats over several years, all died while patients of his, and the family had the $ and the connections to sue. He had the damnable luck to die of old age before he got served with what was due to him, and his estate settled out of court for a healthy payout...which indicated just how wrong the family knew the guy was.

The area now has a MUCH better set of vets and several other practices have opened and from my friends' experiences things are VASTLY improved over a decade ago. As for the vet here, I cannot say enough awesome things about them, the fact I may not have a petco or petsmart nearby but the less than 2.5 mile round trip from the house to the vet and back...more than makes up for it. But despite the fact that Darla was a pain in the ass, and my vet for her was a royal douchecanoe I learned what NOT to tolerate in a vet, and what to like even more about the vet staff I have now and how much they're willing to let me learn.
 

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This will be 2 part and somewhat long winded - I apologize in advance.
I'm not sure how old she is, but if your vet is willing to teach you, you can get a bag of fluids and help her kidneys perform better with doing sub-q fluids. Most vets don't offer to teach their patients because most won't ask. But I say ask. When I asked they had me bring in a calm cat (but your sick kitty would do) and its far easier than pilling ANY cat. Assuming you're not horribly squeamish of needles. If our vet tries to charge you more than $20 for a bag of fluid and some needles - ask around at other vets in the area. My vet charges $6 per bag of fluids and I can get the syringes from them for $5 for 10 - 28g needles or I can get the same amount for $1.99 at the farm store up the road. So its not as expensive as most will make it out to be. Even if you can get them to write a script for it, you can order it online from 1800petmeds or jefferspet (i think) and others for around $12 or so shipped. It can be stored in your kitchen cabinet, doesn't need to be refrigerated or really special handled other than an alcohol swab to the port when you draw fluid. But really that was it.

My last cat - prior to adopting Biggie in NY and then moving to IN where I now have uh 32 inside and an alternating colony outside of 14-21 - depending on weather. (In winter we get around 20-21 every day, in warmer weather there are more farm cats who are well fed so we don't see as many in summer), but Darla, the pain in the ass that she was - I'd rescued her from the SPCA in Rochester NY in 2001, she moved with the ex and I and a dog back to the area I grew up in. Darla was always super healthy, then one day she wasn't. I called the vet as soon as she started running a fever. That was a Thursday. The vet was out and the office told me to call in the next morning. Friday AM the Darla's fever was very high, and she was panting. I called the vet back. I knew something was WRONG. They told me "its just the URI going around," I said this is NOT a URI, she's got a very high fever and she's panting. They refused to see me and at the time it was the only vet within a 75 mile one way drive. I couldn't afford vet appt and gas $ to go to an emergency vet 120 miles away. They scheduled an appointment for Monday. I took her in for them opening Monday morning - 6 hours early for her appt. I take her in and show them the dying cat. The vet takes us to an exam room and tells me I've CLEARLY abused and neglected the cat by failing to bring her in when she started showing signs months ago (he'd just seen her not even 2 weeks prior to that and said she was fine). This vet had a history among friends "he's the only vet in the area and he repeatedly refuses to see animals when they're sick and rather insists you wait to be seen only then its too late, and its always with cats." In NY I can record a conversation without the other party knowing as long as one party consents to the taping - since I did it, I consented. I had recorded his nurse telling me on Thursday he wasn't in and to call on Friday, and I recorded the Friday call(s) and the insistence by them it was nothing to worry about and THEM telling me I'd get in on Monday. Darla was put to sleep on Monday morning to ease her suffering from acute multi-organ failure that a necropsy I insisted on and paid for out of pocket said could have been treated and her life made far less miserable than it was during the 72hrs of delay by the vet.

My recording, was proof enough that I wasn't at fault - the vet tried to have me charged with animal cruelty - except the local cops who came to the office, looked at me, knew me and my family and said there wasn't enough evidence to charge me, especially when I handed them copies of the recordings. Showing I made every effort to have her seen. I informed others to start recording their calls with him and his office. Within 7 months there was enough evidence against the office to have them shut down pending investigation by the state vet licensing board. The investigation was never completed as he "decided to retire, and sell his practice." Suddenly that was fine with the state board, except others came out of the woodwork reporting similar situations. "My cat was never a priority, I always had to wait 72-96 hours for a cat appointment but if my dog ate something she shouldn't have I could get seen within an hour, and it was the same doctor for both animals." The state ended up pulling licenses for several vet techs because they went along with his hatred of cats - which came out later when he was sued civilly for damages to one family's entire cat population - 10 cats over several years, all died while patients of his, and the family had the $ and the connections to sue. He had the damnable luck to die of old age before he got served with what was due to him, and his estate settled out of court for a healthy payout...which indicated just how wrong the family knew the guy was.

The area now has a MUCH better set of vets and several other practices have opened and from my friends' experiences things are VASTLY improved over a decade ago. As for the vet here, I cannot say enough awesome things about them, the fact I may not have a petco or petsmart nearby but the less than 2.5 mile round trip from the house to the vet and back...more than makes up for it. But despite the fact that Darla was a pain in the ass, and my vet for her was a royal douchecanoe I learned what NOT to tolerate in a vet, and what to like even more about the vet staff I have now and how much they're willing to let me learn.

@Frawg that’s absolutely terrible what that vet put you through. With all of your time and energy, that depraved vet’s practice was shut down; thus, saving so many lives. It is sickening that someone can be so cruel. It is hard to understand why someone like that would practice veterinary medicine. Thankfully our vet is outstanding, and I travel a good distance just to see him. Fortunately for us, he loves cats, and has seen all of our animals asap (husband and I rescued two shetland sheepdogs that have since passed, prior to rescuing Boo).

Thank you very much for taking the time out providing this wealth of information. I will make an inquiry about sub-q fluids. Currently I give Boo her 1 ml of Benazepril mixed with a small amount of wet cat food, and she eats it with no problems.
 

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The state ended up pulling licenses for several vet techs because they went along with his hatred of cats - which came out later when he was sued civilly for damages to one family's entire cat population - 10 cats over several years, all died while patients of his, and the family had the $ and the connections to sue. He had the damnable luck to die of old age before he got served with what was due to him, and his estate settled out of court for a healthy payout...which indicated just how wrong the family knew the guy was.

The area now has a MUCH better set of vets and several other practices have opened and from my friends' experiences things are VASTLY improved over a decade ago. As for the vet here, I cannot say enough awesome things about them, the fact I may not have a petco or petsmart nearby but the less than 2.5 mile round trip from the house to the vet and back...more than makes up for it. But despite the fact that Darla was a pain in the ass, and my vet for her was a royal douchecanoe I learned what NOT to tolerate in a vet, and what to like even more about the vet staff I have now and how much they're willing to let me learn.

what a nightmare

I can't believe that the family KEPT taking their cats there after 1 of them died, let alone 10!
 

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We will be getting a Kitler cat next week. For those who don't know what a kitler is, it's a cat that had markings that look like Adolf Hitler.
That will make it 3 cats and a ball python we have for pets.
 

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I'm absolutely certain Tiki is okay with you thinking she's an angel...
 

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I'm absolutely certain Tiki is okay with you thinking she's an angel...

Yeah, fairly sure..and she is that.
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Even my very nervous uncle says she's just a doll. She is a good kitty.
 
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Yesterday and today has been "all the cats will try my patience" days. Came home from working 10 hours and discovered a charm in the middle of the hall floor. Normally not a big deal, except there are 9 of those charms total in my house, all nine are for 1 project. I know where the 9 charms, and about 60 others were when I left for work 14 hours prior...but finding 1 charm in some place OTHER than where I left the project and its 70 or so charms is bothering me...I go look in the project bag...uh why is my nearly full project bag no longer nearly full, where the hell is the bigger bag with 3 smaller plastic bags, containing 3 bracelets and 70-ish charms? Not where it should be...in fact nowhere near there.

Much screaming, lots fo me cursing up a storm, and lots of cats escaping my wrath-path, 2 hours of hunting later I found the charms scattered in my blankets on my bed, the bag they were in chewed to oblivion...the bag with the bracelets in progress is still MIA - but I gave up on tearing apart the bedroom in lieu of sleep. Mom ended up finding the bag...shoved under the water dish in the kitchen, mostly not intact...but contents - 3 in progress bracelets still inside, if a bit damp.

Project bag is now in a project rubbermaid tote, which the cats are taking turns sleeping on. $90 worth of charms and 3 cats most likely the suspects...then mom comes in this afternoon to wake me up and ask me what else I might be missing. "Just put the pile in my sock drawer and back away quietly.." I got up a few hours after that and discovered $50 worth of supplies, in bags, in my sock drawer with mom's note "these were found in the living room this morning..."

Project bag became the tote shortly after that ah discovery.
 

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Dang. If I had all your small shiny bits around, I'd keep them all in bins or locked away. Cats love the playtoys.

Tiki used to sneak onto my desk in the old Apt. when I was asleep and slurp a drink from my water cup.
I caught her once...she never did it again. Which, considering the state of my desk, is a good thing. :D
 

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I've been lurking. Stuff is getting to me. Cats are halping - sort of, and sort of the stuff getting to me. We have a rotating kitty crud going through the rescue = $120 in just antibiotics already and I go get a 4th bottle tomorrow. *gulp*
 

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I've been lurking. Stuff is getting to me. Cats are halping - sort of, and sort of the stuff getting to me. We have a rotating kitty crud going through the rescue = $120 in just antibiotics already and I go get a 4th bottle tomorrow. *gulp*

Sorry to hear this, Frawg. Four scripts of antibiotics? Maybe time for a second opinion?
 

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I've been lurking. Stuff is getting to me. Cats are halping - sort of, and sort of the stuff getting to me. We have a rotating kitty crud going through the rescue = $120 in just antibiotics already and I go get a 4th bottle tomorrow. *gulp*

*hugs*

Hate that you have a bug going the rounds...can you isolate the sick ones at all?
 

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We tried, they want siblings. So we're hoping the stronger pink stuff works better. Its also a bit cheaper for a 14 day per cat course,.
 

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Just took a couple of the best Tiki-kitteh photos I've done.
She was in a good mood and the lighting was good too. Woohoo!!




 

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Just took a couple of the best Tiki-kitteh photos I've done.
She was in a good mood and the lighting was good too. Woohoo!!





Pretty Tiki! A bright spot in an otherwise horrible day at work.
 

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Pretty Tiki! A bright spot in an otherwise horrible day at work.

I'm so happy that my beautiful cat and attempts at photography could help make your day better. :D

You do SO much, you deserve it.

*** hugs***
 

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Here is our dog "Fluffy" playing with our neighbors new puppy they got about a week ago.

Fluffy likes carrying the little puppy around like cats carry there kittens ... in there mouth ... Kind of cute :)

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Here are a couple of dogs that were sleeping out by the street while I was on vacation in Pattaya, Thailand.

This must have been after a very long night of heavy partying and drinking:

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I'm thrilled to say the kitty crud that was making its way around the rescue is under control and I believe the vet will have me stop medicating tomorrow.
 

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