I use an ipv3 @ 100w on a .22-.25 build normally. All i have and have ever used are samsung 25r, I have 8 of them. Im wanting to know if there is another battery I could be using to hold a longer charge. Im changing my sets 3 times aday as now.
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I use the red Imren 38A/2600 mAh batts in both of my IPV3's ..one has the .2 ohm Arctic at 65w and the other is a .25 build in my RDA at 80-85w.. Batts easily go all day on one charge, but I swap them out before I go to bed I for fully charged batts to go the next day...swapping batts out 3 times a day has to suck!...
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it does!! I think it must be my charger.. cuz i have the same issue
so I am going to get a new charger, like this one..
and some new batteries.. thinking on these:
but i am not sure on the batteries.. I noticed my new batteries i snagged.. those samsung 25r.. well they are new..
shouldnt they be lasting me a lot longer.. vaping around .3-.8ohms on my ipv mini 2.. right now i get to charge mine 4 times a day..
I think pioneer4U recommends using 30A amp batts in my 150w IPV3... I started with the purple Efest 35A batts, then recently started using the red Imren 38A batts..
Just bought these yellow AWT 40A batts today at my local shop...its what the guys who work there run in their 150w mods ..will try them in mine tomorrow.....
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Just bought these yellow AWT 40A batts today at my local shop...its what the guys who work there run in their 150w mods ..will try them in mine tomorrow.....
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The issue is that batteries with a high ampere output have less capacity then lower ampere output batteries, that is due to the way the cells are constructed and the actual Lithium Ion chemistry within the cell itself. It's a limitation that we have to live with at the moment. The alternative is to get a LiPO battery pack, but you need a hobby charger for it. The Samsung 25R's are good batteries, So are the Red Imren 38 Amp.
yeps is why i think it might just be my charger.. it's 3 yrs old now..
Have you checked the voltage of the batts coming off the charger?yeps is why i think it might just be my charger.. it's 3 yrs old now..
yeps.. they aren't fully charged.. guy at my local vape shop says they are shot.. they wont hold a full charge..
I did not know chargers go bad..
if my ipv went to 100, i'd be amazed lol
lol
Does your charger have a digital display or just lights? I have the LUC chargers that have digital readouts of batt voltage..yeps.. they aren't fully charged.. guy at my local vape shop says they are shot.. they wont hold a full charge..
I did not know chargers go bad..
Also the 4-bay has a switch to charge either 2 batts at 2.0A or 4 batts at 1.0A..
But the digital readout let's me see true batt voltages at a glance. They work great!
As a final thought I don't think USB charging is as efficient as using a separate quality charger..my sister had trouble charging her Evic via USB....it never would fully charge the batt..problem was solved when she started charging her batts in a separate charger...that was 8mos ago and still working out good for her...
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my funds just transferred and yes, snagging that luc..
the other one was a nitecore i4, had it for 3 yrs Smacksy..
just hope it wont ruin my batteries too much till the new one gets here..
the other one was a nitecore i4, had it for 3 yrs Smacksy..
just hope it wont ruin my batteries too much till the new one gets here..
3 yrs is good...I had my first nitecore that lasted about 3mos. Lol
I got a LUC for my 26650 batts about a year ago now that's still working great..
But when I got my two IPV3's I suddenly had a bunch of 18650's to charge, so I recently got this 4 bay...I really like it!
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well i hope it will get here fast.. Amazon..
and it looks like they have some batteries on sale too..
Amazon.. and it looks like they have some batteries on sale too..
I couldn't wait for vape mail, I needed a charger ASAP so I bought the 4 bay at my local shop..they gave me a deal on it for being a good customer, lolwell i hope it will get here fast..
and it looks like they have some batteries on sale too..
It ran me $28....
Speaking for myself I never buy batts from Amazon or fastech because I believe they could be cheap rewrapped batts from somebody else..quality trumps price when it comes to my batts being safe and lasting a long time...but I do hope your vape mail arrives soon!
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nods mine is about the same price and none of my locals carry it..
far as batteries tho.... *shakes head..
far as batteries tho.... *shakes head..
Known trusted vendors are the only place you should buy batteries. Any third party site (amazon, eBay, etc) should be avoided as you have no idea what you're really getting. Avoid buying batteries from china as well. In my humble opinion there's really no reason to buy any vape related gear from third party sites. There are plenty of known vendors that have competitive prices. Gamble on some dude with a garage full of black market, counterfeit bullshit if you want. I won't. Just my thoughts.
yeps.. and if I had vendors that were cheap enough, competitive, and knew what they had..
i wouldn't be online looking at the next best thing
On the other hand.. ecx is out of the batteries i'd like to buy... so...
They are good vendors right here in the USA that have quality batteries at reasonable prices.. AtoZ vapor, Eciggity and Discount Vapors to name a few.. Just sayin..yeps.. and if I had vendors that were cheap enough, competitive, and knew what they had..
i wouldn't be online looking at the next best thing
On the other hand.. ecx is out of the batteries i'd like to buy... so...
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thanks Smacksy.. all i ordered so far was the charger..
will see how my old batteries do on that before i try to replace.. bookmarking this
nice! they will go good in my ipv mini 2.. hope i get 2 days out of mine
hope its just my charger tho.. but i appreciate the help..
hope its just my charger tho.. but i appreciate the help..
I have the IPV3 and the IPV mini 2. Of course it depends on the wattage but the IPV3 will run longer than the IPV mini 2 in general, even taking the double battery into account. I swear if I was patient enough to test the run time on each at the same wattage the IPV3 would get more than double the run time. I don't know why. I don't care because the mini 2 is sweet ass. Even vaping a whole lot of the day at 70W you should only have 2 batteries a day in the mini.nice! they will go good in my ipv mini 2.. hope i get 2 days out of mine
hope its just my charger tho.. but i appreciate the help..
I'm also hoping the new charger gets you back in action.
I'll have to look into the IMREN and AWT batteries. They haven't been on my radar. I have a grip of 25R's and "35A" efests keeping everything powered up atm but daddy needs his mutationX built at 0.12 on a SMPL. Just for a minute.
I have the IPV3 and the IPV mini 2. Of course it depends on the wattage but the IPV3 will run longer than the IPV mini 2 in general, even taking the double battery into account. I swear if I was patient enough to test the run time on each at the same wattage the IPV3 would get more than double the run time. I don't know why. I don't care because the mini 2 is sweet ass. Even vaping a whole lot of the day at 70W you should only have 2 batteries a day in the mini.
I'm also hoping the new charger gets you back in action.
I'll have to look into the IMREN and AWT batteries. They haven't been on my radar. I have a grip of 25R's and "35A" efests keeping everything powered up atm but daddy needs his mutationX built at 0.12 on a SMPL. Just for a minute.
aww thank you, KS
that is sweet of you! thanks for the good wish!and wow.. I should only be going thru 2 batteries.. yeps something is just not right..
but my charger will be here on Wednesday.. meantime it's nemi and tobh time
Ummm.... You're Internet have some sort of weird vape gear site block on it?yeps.. and if I had vendors that were cheap enough, competitive, and knew what they had..
i wouldn't be online looking at the next best thing
I think she was talking about b@ms
Yeah I know. I was being a wise guy because I wasn't talking about B&M's.
Two swings, two misses.
Yeah I know. I was being a wise guy because I wasn't talking about B&M's.
Two swings, two misses.
least you haven't striked out yet
lol..my charger is on the way! YAY!!
No, but you're about to. The count for you is now 0-2. Have you been using your left handed vaporizer?least you haven't striked out yet
No, but you're about to. The count for you is now 0-2. Have you been using your left handed vaporizer?
yeps, and it's so green.. it's sparkling!
Dual batt box mods like our IPV3's (I have two of my own) will always get way better batt time vs a single batt mod, mostly because dual batts share the load.I have the IPV3 and the IPV mini 2. Of course it depends on the wattage but the IPV3 will run longer than the IPV mini 2 in general, even taking the double battery into account. I swear if I was patient enough to test the run time on each at the same wattage the IPV3 would get more than double the run time. I don't know why. I don't care because the mini 2 is sweet ass. Even vaping a whole lot of the day at 70W you should only have 2 batteries a day in the mini.
I'm also hoping the new charger gets you back in action.
I'll have to look into the IMREN and AWT batteries. They haven't been on my radar. I have a grip of 25R's and "35A" efests keeping everything powered up atm but daddy needs his mutationX built at 0.12 on a SMPL. Just for a minute.
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I add emphasis this time around.Dual batt box mods like our IPV3's (I have two of my own) will always get way better batt time vs a single batt mod, mostly because dual batts share the load.
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Don't bother. Imren and AWT aren't battery companies. They're buy pretty shrink wraps and print bold face lies on them before turning around and buying B and C grade reject cells than didn't pass QC and battery plants.
There are six high drain battery manufacturers. Sony, Samsung, Sanyo, Panisonic, LG, and AW. Efest, Imran, Efan, AWT, Subohmcell, MJOX, MNKE, Vamped Vapor, and all of those other companies supposedly offer batteries that can produce amperages that Sony, Samsung, Sanyo, Panisonic, LG, and AW can't produce are lying to your face.
Granted, some are better than others. AFAIK MJOX, and MNKE don't lie about the specs of the batteries. They just rewrap and resell batteries with the proper specs on them.
Generally, if it looks to good to be true don't fucking buy it. If it claims to be a 30 amp battery and it isn't a 2100 mAh (Sony VTC4) or a 1600 mAh (VTC3) probably stay away unless it's that new LG battery. If it claims to be over 30 amps just don't fucking buy it. It's a pipe bomb waiting to happen. There was an Efucker battery. I think it was the purple 38 amp or something that was actually a 5 amp cell.
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I have an efest charger. I had been using it on 1.0a charge, just for giggles i swiched it to the .5a charge and the batteries seem to last a lot longer. I've only changed twice today,the first set lasted a majority of the day.
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AW certainly didn't start out as a manufacturer if he indeed is now. AW stands for Andrew Wan, a fellow who purchased supposedly only first bin batteries from major manufacturers and relabeled them under his logo. The reputation and usually higher price stem from using only first bin cells.
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As far as I know AW still is a rewrap job...unlike other rewraps though AW gets the cream of the A quality batch. He's pretty picky and it contributes to the overall price. Secondly....An authentic VTC is an Authentic VTC but with all lovely drama and controversy surrounding them I remember them being Sonys....I mean they're Sonys but not Sony Sonys...this shit's so confusing.
To the OP of this thread....how many cycles have you put your batteries threw by now charging them that many times a day? I am guessing that their internal resistance is going up from wear and tear of a life of heavy toil in a series configured box mod putting out high amps and they're getting up there in their service life and have lost some of their performance so by charging them slower you're actually being nicer to them and therefore they are letting you coax a little more life out of them
The only real drawback to Samsung's cells is if you read the spec sheet on them after aprox. 250 complete charge cycles worth of life they're supposed to drop to holding about 60 percent of their original capacity...also...since you've got an efest charger I'd put them on a .5 charge cycle for shit's and giggles and watch them charge to see if they're draining evenly still and if they're charging evenly still....if one battery charges at a significantly different pace than the other than the internal resistance has gone up for sure and it's time to put that battery out to pasture.
To the OP of this thread....how many cycles have you put your batteries threw by now charging them that many times a day? I am guessing that their internal resistance is going up from wear and tear of a life of heavy toil in a series configured box mod putting out high amps and they're getting up there in their service life and have lost some of their performance so by charging them slower you're actually being nicer to them and therefore they are letting you coax a little more life out of them
The only real drawback to Samsung's cells is if you read the spec sheet on them after aprox. 250 complete charge cycles worth of life they're supposed to drop to holding about 60 percent of their original capacity...also...since you've got an efest charger I'd put them on a .5 charge cycle for shit's and giggles and watch them charge to see if they're draining evenly still and if they're charging evenly still....if one battery charges at a significantly different pace than the other than the internal resistance has gone up for sure and it's time to put that battery out to pasture.
@Lefty , @madmonkey , Thanks for the info. Always something new to learn.
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Anytime I can help I am more than happy too....and you're right, I learn something new every time I come around here....may not always be vaping related but it's definitely educational never the less indeed
Now to stay on topic...A lot of those rewapps are putting bogus numbers on them like Vamped and what not are putting the pulse ratings on their wrappers to sell their cells and it scares me...it's kind of a scarey thing...touch and go to say the least. And as far as buying cells goes one of the reasons why I love Samsung so much is they're affordable, quality cells and I have never had a problem getting authentics. Lightening Vapes sells 25R's at a good price and you can find them usually cheaper if you look on sale somewhere.
The 20R is still my favorite with it's 22 amp continuous rating at 2000 mah. I still like my VTC 3's and my old 24 amp continuous drain AW's and they're both 1600mah. When I vape on my mech's all day I know I am going to go threw 2 to 3 batteries regardless of if they're 1600 or 2600 mah rating so I worry more about having a battery that isn't even pushing it's max continuous rate because to get the best life out of them especially the way we pulse them instead of continuously fire them is to try and keep your builds a couple amps under the continuous drain limit. "the less they stress the longer they pass the test." cheezy rhyme I know but it's true. A cool battery is a happy battery.
Do I think the 20R is the best battery ever made? Hell no, it's just a preference. Samsung used to make a battery they labeled the INR-18650 15M...it was only 1500 mah but it was 25 amps...then they made the 20R and it was originally 2200 mah and 20 amps...then when they stopped making the 15M the 20R was reformulated into it's current state of 2000 mah and 22 amps. I am curious to see if the 25R will get a makeover as well since it's actually a couple year old design. LG did it with the HE2 by coming out with the HE4. Those two batteries have identical spec sheets almost but I read a rumor somewhere that the HE4 has much superior heat dissipation which will help keep the internal resistance down making it have a superior service life if handled properly. I'm thinking about buying a few of them instead of my Samsungs next battery order.
But if you must have AW or VTC's or any other brand with a high rate of being faked I would just spend the couple extra bucks and get them from RTD Vapor. There was only one time I questioned the authenticity of a battery from them and they assured me that they were real and seemed almost offended that I would even question if it was or not....but their service and product is top notch and I've never had a problem with them. Worth every penny
Thanks as always for the info 3124!
my charger is here.. now to find a 5v adapter.. go figure.. the only thing it came with is a usb cord..
omg!!
omg!!
Luc should come with an ac adapter. I think mine came with a car adapter as well. The usb cord if for using it as a power supply, not powering it.
Oh Noes!
lol all my wall usb things are a bit busy atm.. but....