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The Cromwell

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When I first started vaping I knew nothing a bout vaping.
I watched a lot of vape reviewers as I was then a seeker searching for the right vape for me.
And there were a lot less reviewers back then and most were not commercialized yet.
And also DIY as I could not tolerate hardly any of the commercial ejuice.
Something(s) in most flavorings causes me physical irritation in the mouth, throat and lungs...

As I got closer to my preferred vape my viewership declined and now I seldom watch reviewers.
I do still watch Todd, but I would watch his vids if he was reviewing car polish :)
However he does not inspire me to buy much of anything as most of the stuff he shows is above my price range.
 

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I do still watch Todd, but I would watch his vids if he was reviewing car polish
However he does not inspire me to buy much of anything as most of the stuff he shows is above my price range.

I had to stop watching Todd for the fun of it, because he did give me shinyitis for $$$$ stuff -

But, I've never regretted a Todd inspired purchase either, because he is so freaking honest, and his vape style is a lot like mine
 

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I had to stop watching Todd for the fun of it, because he did give me shinyitis for $$$$ stuff -

But, I've never regretted a Todd inspired purchase either, because he is so freaking honest, and his vape style is a lot like mine
Todds vape style has gotten a lot more like mine over the past year or so.
I think Dean was a bad influence on him ;)
 

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I like Todd. He comes off as a genuine regular guy who just wants to be useful. I find his analysis and assessments to be well reasoned and credible. He says what he honestly thinks, but without coming off like an arrogant jackass when he knows he's disagreeing with somebody else and everybody knows who it is he's disagreeing with.
 

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When I first started vaping, I had no idea there were actually reviewers on YouTube. Then I just happened to stumble across a GoreGore Brittany video and loved her. Unfortunately she has serious medical issues with Dysautonomia and no longer does reviews.
 
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Tony B likes everything, well except for a certain company that would not let him have their Gene chip put in his mod.
That was pretty funny. And a good example of when objective reviewing loses it's place when confronted with potential reviewer profits lost...
For what it may be worth.
 

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For what it may be worth.
I watched that vid when it came out.
Ane the only haters of the Pulse BF were ones who bought it.
Or in my case had one given to me, because the purchaser hated it.

I did sciencing electrical tests comparing it to a Pico Squeeze and the Squeeze whipped it's butt.
 

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I watched that vid when it came out.
Ane the only haters of the Pulse BF were ones who bought it.
Or in my case had one given to me, because the purchaser hated it.

I did sciencing electrical tests comparing it to a Pico Squeeze and the Squeeze whipped it's butt.
That might be the wrong video :(
 

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No that actually is the right video. I was referring to the way he and VandyVape were treated by Voopoo and now with Voopoo's latest move, it makes Voopoo look even worse.
 

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That might be the wrong video :(
I used to watch Tony B. Seems to be a nice enough Guy but he knew little about squonking very long before he worked on the Pulse BF project.
To me he is s nice guy salesman type.
I do not really dislike him like I do the sick as tits guy.
Just not a fan.
 

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No that actually is the right video. I was referring to the way he and VandyVape were treated by Voopoo and now with Voopoo's latest move, it makes Voopoo look even worse.
They had no contract with Poo Poo for the chip. from what I recall. Several threads about that and comments from other reviewers too at the time.
And I suspect that VV sold him down the road on purpose because they did not want to use the Gene chip in their product.

Piss poor business practice.
 

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For what it may be worth.

It’s odd that this guy is saying Voopoo was stringing him along with the gene chip for his mod so that they could release their own 80 watt squonker. Then where is the Voopoo squonker that they were putting out that was gonna steal his design? I heard about this drama when it was going on but didn’t pay too much attention to it. So after watching this video he says all of that happened so they could delay his mod from coming out only to put out their own squonker. After looking around I can’t find any Voopoo Squonk mod so what gives here? Am I missing something? Doesn’t really matter I’m just confused after watching this video so if someone has a better understanding of the situation can they explain it to me. I’m just curious now that I’ve wasted time watching the video so I figure I’d double down and find out what ultimately happened here.
 

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When I first started vaping, I had no idea there were actually reviewers on YouTube. Then I just happened to stumble across a GoreGore Brittany video and loved her. Unfortunately she has serious medical issues with Dysautonomia and no longer does reviews.
When I first started vaping I had NO idea at all about vaping.
I found the reviewers and boards with Google or some search engine.
And the rabbit hole became a vast chasm :)
 

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I used to watch Tony B. Seems to be a nice enough Guy but he knew little about squonking very long before he worked on the Pulse BF project.
To me he is s nice guy salesman type.
I do not really dislike him like I do the sick as tits guy.
Just not a fan.

I’ve been in sales for a while and everything about Tony B. screams salesman to me. I love my Pulse 80w but I don’t buy the nice guy routine.


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So you guys are saying that Tony is lying?
Maybe... maybe he was deceived by VV?
And would he admit to being deceived if he realized that he was?

He said that he had to talk VV into using the Gene chip....
My personal opinion is that VV was planning on using their chip all the time.
 

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I’ve been in sales for a while and everything about Tony B. screams salesman to me. I love my Pulse 80w but I don’t buy the nice guy routine.


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I worked quite a while in tech support for Fiber optic products. I was the tech support manager.
I was often at odds with the sales staff as I would have to deal with the customers regarding the salemen's lies about the products capabilities.
I would tell the customer the truth and the sales staff would jump all over me. I would reply that the product was good enough to sell itself without any lies.
Only job I ever felt really good about quitting.
 

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I worked quite a while in tech support for Fiber optic products. I was the tech support manager.
I was often at odds with the sales staff as I would have to deal with the customers regarding the salemen's lies about the products capabilities.
I would tell the customer the truth and the sales staff would jump all over me. I would reply that the product was good enough to sell itself without any lies.
Only job I ever felt really good about quitting.

Stuff like that totally sucks. I’ve always had to be my own customer service so I kept it honest.


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Isn't Tony B into real estate, travel bookings or something like that?
 
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gsmit1

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I'm not defending or attacking the guy. I just don't know. I do know that voopoo has just recently had another very unscrupulous move with the whole thing about sending a mod to what amounts to a kids channel in England..
 

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I'm not defending or attacking the guy. I just don't know. I do know that voopoo has just recently had another very unscrupulous move with the whole thing about sending a mod to what amounts to a kids channel in England..

I never heard about that but it sounds awful.


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Another thing to consider about VooPoo is that isn't Gene pretty much just another name for DNA?
Gene Chip, DNA chip?
 
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Voopoo sent a mod to a guy with a prank channel where he was pretending to vape liquid helium. I think its call heliox that divers use for driving down past a certain point it a mixture of helium and oxygen but it a gas. I guess people were more upset he was plugging the mod but how many people think kids don't watch and listen to those Juul commercials. I don't watch tv but heard they have them on tv and I know their on the radio
 

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I don't know Tony and likely never will. I believe he was deceived, but we will likely never know the whole truth. Ultimately it really doesn't matter one bit. Screw the drama and just vape.
 

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So you guys are saying that Tony is lying?
I’m not saying he’s lying, I just don’t understand his explanation. He says they kept raising the price and delaying, raise price, delay so that they could put out their squonker and he’d be left high and dry. If that’s the case then where is the Voopoo squonker? Surely it would be out by now or at the very least we’d have heard something about a Voopoo squonker. I don’t care one way or the other it’s just I watched that video above and came away confused. So I figured I’d ask, what gives?? Am I misinterpreting something or is he lying? That is the question.
 

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I’m not saying he’s lying, I just don’t understand his explanation. He says they kept raising the price and delaying, raise price, delay so that they could put out their squonker and he’d be left high and dry. If that’s the case then where is the Voopoo squonker? Surely it would be out by now or at the very least we’d have heard something about a Voopoo squonker. I don’t care one way or the other it’s just I watched that video above and came away confused. So I figured I’d ask, what gives?? Am I misinterpreting something or is he lying? That is the question.
yep he was lying
 

gsmit1

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I’m not saying he’s lying, I just don’t understand his explanation. He says they kept raising the price and delaying, raise price, delay so that they could put out their squonker and he’d be left high and dry. If that’s the case then where is the Voopoo squonker? Surely it would be out by now or at the very least we’d have heard something about a Voopoo squonker. I don’t care one way or the other it’s just I watched that video above and came away confused. So I figured I’d ask, what gives?? Am I misinterpreting something or is he lying? That is the question.
I took it as he was assuming it would be a squonker because his was, but the squonk component turned out to be irrelevant and they decided they wanted their chip in their products only and refused to simply say that and instead went on this campaign of delay and inflate to try to get VV to back out on their own.. In other words, whether it turned out in the end to be a squonker or not isn't the point. The point is, they changed their minds and wanted it to be available only in their mods, no matter what kind they were.


If this is anything other than your opinion what's your evidence?
I agree. Tony can be, whatever Tony is as a reviewer, salesman or whatever else. I'm not a fan however of accusing somebody with no evidence. It's one thing to say he didn't sound credible to me. That's your opinion. It's another to pronounce him a liar.

I am not infallible, but I once made a living and survived the streets (long story and a VERY long time ago) by being able to out-snow the people around me. I'm pretty good at picking up bs. I could be wrong, but he sounded like he was telling the truth as he knew it to me.
 
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The Cromwell

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And VV had no contract to purchase the chips with VooPoo.
Why? Because they wanted to use their own chips.
I think they had an agreement to not use the Gene chip and Tony B. was hung out to dry.
And Tony ran down a competitor for them.
Win win for VV.

Just my opinion based on what I researched at the time of the vape drama event.

Disclaimer: I only have the Pulse BF that was given to me and own NO VooPoo stuff.
 

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Maybe I’m being overly critical but one thing that really chapped my ass was SuckMyMod naming Jai Haze’s Jenna rda a top rda of 2018. What irritates me is Jai Haze puts out a 90min video complaining about how awful the machining is on the Jenna rda’s so how can you name it a top rda of 2018?


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gsmit1

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I have done no research beyond a few youtube videos. The possibility of VV doing him dirty is certainly a possibility as well. Him lying through his teeth is also possible. I just don't get that impression.
 

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VV has another new RDA, Widowmaker. Created by El Mono Vapeador
SMM has the first english review, i think.
 

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