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chrisakasparky

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Hmmm.. I’m thinking these super-sub-ohm builds’ slight differences in resistance between coils are far more apparent at such low resistances, especially with <4 wraps. I’ve found low ohm dual coils much harder to get glowing evenly than duals at .13 and up
You could actually guess by looking at the picture which coil glows first, and it’s not in the color.
 

WPMac

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Hmmm.. I’m thinking these super-sub-ohm builds’ slight differences in resistance between coils are far more apparent at such low resistances, especially with <4 wraps. I’ve found low ohm dual coils much harder to get glowing evenly than duals at .13 and up.
Yes very much so. Even a couple hundreths of an ohm is apparent down in the .1 range.
 

gsmit1

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Hmmm.. I’m thinking these super-sub-ohm builds’ slight differences in resistance between coils are far more apparent at such low resistances, especially with <4 wraps. I’ve found low ohm dual coils much harder to get glowing evenly than duals at .13 and up
You could actually guess by looking at the picture which coil glows first, and it’s not in the color.
Yes very much so. Even a couple hundreths of an ohm is apparent down in the .1 range.
I never thought of that.
But it seems almost obvious once you do.
 

WPMac

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Hi you guys, how you doing?

As always, im asking for some help here, lol.

I had a hard time to my 30g+ cores not to collapse when fusing wires with a 42g wrap.

Any tips to stabilize the build, @CrazyChef v2.0 , @raymo2u , @zephyr , @WPMac and other fellows?

Thanks you guys. Best.

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1 page back, post #23606 has a video of Meg doing 5 core 30g. That's the only technique I use for multi round core builds. Depending on how well you get the tension on the cores you may not even need to use sliders. I don't have a cotter pin. I use 18g galvanized steel and bend it to shape.
 

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bx10r

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Quick staged twisted build before the mrs got home and told me no more playing..lol
2x25ss316/24 ni80 stage
Warhead rda/purge slam piece
.09
20650 battery

Omg...flavor is insane
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CrazyChef v2.0

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Hi you guys, how you doing?

As always, im asking for some help here, lol.

I had a hard time to my 30g+ cores not to collapse when fusing wires with a 42g wrap.

Any tips to stabilize the build, @CrazyChef v2.0 , @raymo2u , @zephyr , @WPMac and other fellows?

Thanks you guys. Best.

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I've never been able to do more than 2 core fused Claptons...
1 page back, post #23606 has a video of Meg doing 5 core 30g. That's the only technique I use for multi round core builds. Depending on how well you get the tension on the cores you may not even need to use sliders. I don't have a cotter pin. I use 18g galvanized steel and bend it to shape.
...until now. :D

Tried the ribbon slider like in Meg's video, but used an eye hook instead of a cotter pin. Finally got a successful usable length of multi core fused Clapton wire.

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The_hat_trix

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I've never been able to do more than 2 core fused Claptons...

...until now. :D

Tried the ribbon slider like in Meg's video, but used an eye hook instead of a cotter pin. Finally got a successful usable length of multi core fused Clapton wire.

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I remember when i tried 3 cores fused clapton las time i did @WPMac special karate punch to the whole setup...:D
 

raymo2u

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I loop my cores and use Ribbon sliders. The Ribbon sliders leg on the drill side I bend so it points out at almost 90 degrees, creating a short wall. The clapton hits this wall and pushes the slider down the cores like a Alien Maker would, this is how I do my Multicore Fused Claptons. If trying this just make sure your Ribbon slider is atleast a .5R strand and it pinched lightly so it can easily slide. Ill try and get some picturues for you of how I set of the slider. This method requires a lot of tension and you to hold the same angle while claptoning all the way down which can be difficult at first but once you get it, its just as fast and easy as making normal claptons.


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zephyr

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Hi you guys, how you doing?

As always, im asking for some help here, lol.

I had a hard time to my 30g+ cores not to collapse when fusing wires with a 42g wrap.

Any tips to stabilize the build, @CrazyChef v2.0 , @raymo2u , @zephyr , @WPMac and other fellows?

Thanks you guys. Best.

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You just have to use something to keep them flat ahead of your fusing - small key ring, paperclips, mini clothespins, or a good ribbon slider, and keep it close (less than one inch)

I loop my cores and use Ribbon sliders. The Ribbon sliders leg on the drill side I bend so it points out at almost 90 degrees, creating a short wall. The clapton hits this wall and pushes the slider down the cores like a Alien Maker would, this is how I do my Multicore Fused Claptons. If trying this just make sure your Ribbon slider is atleast a .5R strand and it pinched lightly so it can easily slide. Ill try and get some picturues for you of how I set of the slider. This method requires a lot of tension and you to hold the same angle while claptoning all the way down which can be difficult at first but once you get it, its just as fast and easy as making normal claptons.


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I remember you showing that - I will try it this weekend
 

raymo2u

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I have the Patino's, but never really tried using them yet.

I bought these ones:
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No real need to buy them, just make your own ;)

Just make sure that edge of the ribbon is what the clapton right where e top of the core is that was the clapton doesnt push it down and pushes on the lowest point of the wall allowing it to push forward instead of downwards.

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GIF of it working:
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Severinomotta

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No real need to buy them, just make your own ;)

Just make sure that edge of the ribbon is what the clapton right where e top of the core is that was the clapton doesnt push it down and pushes on the lowest point of the wall allowing it to push forward instead of downwards.

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GIF of it working:
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Sweet! Thanks so much for the pics Raymo, and @WPMac , @CrazyChef v2.0 @zephyr and other dudes for the tips :)

. I'll try these methods.

Best to you all.
 

KarmicRage

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Been a while again for any uploads from myself. Moving around a fair bit so setting up drills hasn't been achievable. Been working on my braiding and hammering skills instead. 5 loop fishtail braid in different sizes, messed up the first few of these by using information from a different braid (pics 1,2 and 3) :/ a proper version of the fishtail (pic 4) 7 loop variant and 8 loop celtic braids (pics 6,7 and 8), 2nd of which I managed the whole stick without mistakes. Need to work on coring these builds next. Awesome work from you guys to come back to as well :) hopong to be able to spin some builds up soon. Looking like it'll be after Christmas now though :/
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zephyr

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Mohawks
3 x 26g/38g

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Double Frame Staggertons
6 x .4R/12 x .3R/42g


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How do you para-alien, Raymo?

Been a while again for any uploads from myself. Moving around a fair bit so setting up drills hasn't been achievable. Been working on my braiding and hammering skills instead. 5 loop fishtail braid in different sizes, messed up the first few of these by using information from a different braid (pics 1,2 and 3) :/ a proper version of the fishtail (pic 4) 7 loop variant and 8 loop celtic braids (pics 6,7 and 8), 2nd of which I managed the whole stick without mistakes. Need to work on coring these builds next. Awesome work from you guys to come back to as well :) hopong to be able to spin some builds up soon. Looking like it'll be after Christmas now though :/
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Nice!!!
 

zephyr

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I dont, I space the alien wrap by eye ;)


I swear I saw you say a while back that you para-aliened, at least for that one time
..ah well

...LOOK AT MY PICTURES! This is no editing, just jpgs that my phone spit out and I focus stacked in Helicon- Building this weekend, looking forward to it, now that I can get good enough pictures without breaking my back or killing my eyes

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WPMac

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I swear I saw you say a while back that you para-aliened, at least for that one time
..ah well

...LOOK AT MY PICTURES! This is no editing, just jpgs that my phone spit out and I focus stacked in Helicon- Building this weekend, looking forward to it, now that I can get good enough pictures without breaking my back or killing my eyes

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Yah I want helicon too. But I don't want to spend the 30 bucks :(
 

WPMac

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I swear I saw you say a while back that you para-aliened, at least for that one time
..ah well

...LOOK AT MY PICTURES! This is no editing, just jpgs that my phone spit out and I focus stacked in Helicon- Building this weekend, looking forward to it, now that I can get good enough pictures without breaking my back or killing my eyes

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And wtf ... those are just standard old jpegs? How the hell are they so clean?
 

raymo2u

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Any tips on that? I can never seem to get good spacing by eye :(
You need to stretch the decore so its basically needs "no tension", then hold the decore at a 5-ish degree angle and then use pinch tension to control the spacing. Shoot for about 1mm per space.


I swear I saw you say a while back that you para-aliened, at least for that one time
..ah well

...LOOK AT MY PICTURES! This is no editing, just jpgs that my phone spit out and I focus stacked in Helicon- Building this weekend, looking forward to it, now that I can get good enough pictures without breaking my back or killing my eyes

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Those look pretty incredible :bomb::bomb:
 

mach1ne

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Any tips on that? I can never seem to get good spacing by eye
the trick that worked for me was to start out making normal alien wraps for about a half inch and then carefully lead my wrap hand a little bit. as the drill is spinning and you wrap that first half inch up, you can see that the wraps are shiny and tight like normal alien wraps should look. if you lead your wrap hand a little towards your swivels, the spinning/wrapped up part will lose its shine. the window for the spacing to work is somewhere between the wraps losing their shine, and being able to see the spaces in between them. in my experience, if i could see the spacing as it was spinning, it was about 5 times bigger than it needed to be. i just lead until my shine turns grey and hope for the best. i have only made a handful of alien staggs at this point, but the tightest ones were the ones i just trusted that spacing and went for it.

:wave: @KarmicRage those are some clean braids bruv :D

@zephyr very crispy shots :inlove:
 

The_hat_trix

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I'm really amazed by your photos meg and more with your attitude! You doing fantastic job with everything
I swear I saw you say a while back that you para-aliened, at least for that one time
..ah well

...LOOK AT MY PICTURES! This is no editing, just jpgs that my phone spit out and I focus stacked in Helicon- Building this weekend, looking forward to it, now that I can get good enough pictures without breaking my back or killing my eyes

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gsmit1

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Well, I jumped for it - ordered Titanium in 2 gauges, and also some actual Kanthal brand Kanthal
I've never tried titanium, what do you know about it, how's the experience? Got me curious
Just now saw this Meg.

Only the usual stuff. (what I know about titanium for vaping)

TC only,
high TCR
no dry firing and toxic gases if it gets too hot, but that is only reached FAR above vaping uses.

I worked on an open die forging crew years back and we got orders for titanium bars sometimes. As in like 1000 pounds and up that we would heat to I think 1200 degrees if I remember right, in a furnace the size of the average American living room.

Most other metals forge far above that. (aluminum at 800 degrees though)

It is one weird element. We used a driveable machine called a "manipulator" which is like a forklift with a 7 foot pair of heavy thick tweezers in front. It's operated with two pedals, 5 levers and a steering wheel. (made by Caterpillar) It had super high heat resistant glass in front and we had to wear all this protective gear to keep from being barbecued alive.

The press operator would open the furnace door from his booth like maybe 2 feet and we'd drive up to it, grab the piece (quickly) and pull it out to be forged under a 1500 ton hydraulic press. Usually the far end of the bar would drop off the end of the mouth of the furnace and we'd pull it away as the PO closed the door. Then we'd put it down and grab it in the middle and take it over to the press.

Even though titanium doesn't melt until FAR hotter than it's forging heat, the friction of the piece dragging on the steel plate in the floor in front of the furnace would melt away streams and droplets in small flames from the end of the bar as we dragged it.

Later when it was time to clean up and go home, there would be those remnants of the titanium pieces laying on the floor, cooled off of course.

You could pick up a piece that looked like thin silver candle wax maybe 6 or 8 inches long, an inch wide and maybe as thick as a quarter and you could BARELY bend it if at all. VERY tough stuff. (and very light too)

Anyway, don't know how I got on all that, but there it is.

EDIT: Oh yeah. It would produce this yellowish powder on the surface as it was formed that would fall off on the die under the press too. Unique metal for sure. Nothing else anything like it.
 
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gsmit1

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I've never tried titanium, ... how's the experience? Got me curious

It vapes nice using the default TC setting for Ti. in my VK530. I can't say that it's a hundred times better than other wire, but it does create a distinct experience that I find enjoyable anyway. Pretty clean and no metallic sensation or anything. At least that I notice.

I'll be curious to see how you like it too.
 

chrisakasparky

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Been a while again for any uploads from myself. Moving around a fair bit so setting up drills hasn't been achievable. Been working on my braiding and hammering skills instead. 5 loop fishtail braid in different sizes, messed up the first few of these by using information from a different braid (pics 1,2 and 3) :/ a proper version of the fishtail (pic 4) 7 loop variant and 8 loop celtic braids (pics 6,7 and 8), 2nd of which I managed the whole stick without mistakes. Need to work on coring these builds next. Awesome work from you guys to come back to as well :) hopong to be able to spin some builds up soon. Looking like it'll be after Christmas now though :/
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Sooo good!! I love these braids. How do you do the Celtic, did you find a good video?
 

KarmicRage

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Sooo good!! I love these braids. How do you do the Celtic, did you find a good video?
Cheers dude I just watched the Jdubs video on YouTube. Haven't seen how his actually turned out so don't know how they're supposed to look. The pattern isn't all that hard to do, even managed to execute both hands at the same time for time efficiency. Yet to throw most of them in any atty, can't wait to colour them up though

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