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MrMeowgi

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Well from a tiny piece of a start of something to shite. Lol. Started with no swivels at all because it was only like a 4inch core. Hooked to a cheaper swivel real fast in the middle. Lol I'll go again in a bit
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Well from a tiny piece of a start of something to shite. Lol. Started with no swivels at all because it was only like a 4inch core. Hooked to a cheaper swivel real fast in the middle. Lol I'll go again in a bit
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No swivel aliens are hard. Supporting the back side of the cores cause them to twist. Have to stop often to fix.
 

MrMeowgi

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No swivel aliens are hard. Supporting the back side of the cores cause them to twist. Have to stop often to fix.
I've got my cores on a swivel now. I just used the single piece for my clapton. Cut it into 3 and ran with it to see what would happen. And I'm hopeful for sure. Better first run than most of my ssfc. Lol

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I've got my cores on a swivel now. I just used the single piece for my clapton. Cut it into 3 and ran with it to see what would happen. And I'm hopeful for sure. Better first run than most of my ssfc. Lol

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For me, that's the best way to do 3 core's, unless you want a bigger decore of course. Cut 1 piece the length of wire you need for a coil , clapton about 1/2 of that, decore and then cut the core into 3. That gives you a little more decore than you need. But better to much than to little.
 

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Gonna try some aliens tonight. Videos I watched they claptoned a piece of 26 and the wrap 3x26 is that correct? Gonna try 3x28 instead but thinking clapton a single 28 then stretch. Lemme know if I'm wrong. Thanks

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Ughhh..i can't get them down. Can't wait to see your results

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And here's a little fun from me :D Before I delve into my buildoff entry and maybe not eat for a few days while I binge in my corner ...
Corrugated .3 SS316, .3 KA1, 28g Ni80, 40g Ni80 stags, 40g SS316L fuse, 5 wraps on a 3mm ID, .15 ohm dual coil in the KTX
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That’s an amazing corrugated build! You’re like the Bo Jackson of coil builders, you pretty much do it all:)
 

mach1ne

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Always thought it would be way too hard to alien. It's actually pretty easy
yeah its not much different from a regular clapton, in terms of what your hands are doing. just seems like its more complex with the math and extra steps, and that seems to psych people out a bit. its easy to think 'ill never be able to do that' after watching a tutorial. as long as your math and prep are good, and your decore isnt over stretched, theres not a lot that can go wrong (unless you have pets/kids/a roomba anywhere near your decore lol).

you are one step away from alien framed staples now man
I wouldn't go that far just yet. Still unsure of the Gotta practice more. But I've got an empty week ahead after work tomorrow
some would argue that making alien framed staples is a great way to practice for making aliens :teehee: imo they are a bit easier because the framed staple stacks are much sturdier than 3 x roundwire cores.

that second one is as clean as it gets :cheers: keep at it man.
 

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Did some product pics today. Holy shit i'm impressed with oneplus 6 camera this photos are taken without any macro lens ect in a pro mode.
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Dude you’re website looks great! You need an all N80 option for your coils though! Some of us city boys like that type of thing:D seriously great job.
 

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I'm about to throw the drill through a window ............. I have made hundreds of aliens ... all of a sudden i cant make a single clean one today. aaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh
:headbang::headbang::headbang::headbang:
Just some plain old 3 core 30/40 and now I have to put 8 coils to the spare jar. Sure I can vape them ... but I sure as shit aint sending them out to someone else.

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I'm about to throw the drill through a window ............. I have made hundreds of aliens ... all of a sudden i cant make a single clean one today. aaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh
:headbang::headbang::headbang::headbang:
Just some plain old 3 core 30/40 and now I have to put 8 coils to the spare jar. Sure I can vape them ... but I sure as shit aint sending them out to someone else.

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I have gotten the alien flu as well. It can last 1-3 days. Drink lots of coffee and pray to the coil gods and you’ll be back in no time.
 

MrMeowgi

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I have gotten the alien flu as well. It can last 1-3 days. Drink lots of coffee and pray to the coil gods and you’ll be back in no time.
Y'all better keep that flu away from me. Lol I just learned to alien

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WPMac

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Well with my sickness I decided to avoid aliens for my build. And with my frustration I decided to stay off the drill the rest of the day. Been brainstorming and I think this is my plan.

38g Pitchfork, 42g para-fused Staggerton Hybrid

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I have thought the whole thing through ... and it's going to be an ordeal ... I might be insane ... or at least I will be by the end
 
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mach1ne

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Well with my sickness I decided to avoid aliens for my build. And with my frustration I decided to stay off the drill the rest of the day. Been brainstorming and I think this is my plan.

38g Pitchfork, 42g para-fused Staggerton Hybrid

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I have thought the whole thing through ... and it's going to be an ordeal ... I might be insane ... or at least I will be by the end
ooof :sad: good luck man :D its very interesting seeing your notes. i often have similar pages on my desk too. a friend of mine said it looked like astrophysics or calculus notes and its given him this impression that coil building is just fucking nuts with math and stuff :teehee: kinda makes me wanna see other peoples notes now...

if any of you keep crazy mad-scientist style build notes, post pics of them with your builds :D

Probably not the correct tips since I just learned yesterday. But seems to work for me.
any tip could help a person out. we all have different eyes/hands/patience/fortitude/faith in the build gods/health/injuries etc...and we all do everything a little differently to overcome different things. i can say 'watch your angle and maintain consistent tension' all day long, it doesnt mean shit to someone who cant see it, or who has some kind of injury/health problem that stops their arm/hand from working like mine does. they need tips from people who had to overcome the same problems. you might only be on your third alien build, but if you can do them at all, you might have figured out how to help someone else already :cheers:
 

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All it needs now is a Mil Spec Trigger and take Glock Mags ;)

Just kidding but great work man, that is awesome its come out as nice as it looks!

Thank you man. Haven’t had much time lately but it’s almost done. I need to countersink the boltheads on the top. And I’m wrestling with what I want to use cosmetically cover my mishaps on the sides. I was thinking copper sheet but I don’t want to pull the trigger til I’m sure. But here she is today
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MrMeowgi

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I need alien math.. I add the width of all the wire then I need to match that width to what ever size the clapton wire would be correct? Like a 4 ply fralien woul be 4x.1 plus the width of the frames. So I'd need like a 24g to clapton. I'll need bigger wire.

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Edit: just found the 3:1ratio math stuff.
 
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I'm about to throw the drill through a window ............. I have made hundreds of aliens ... all of a sudden i cant make a single clean one today. aaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh
:headbang::headbang::headbang::headbang:
Just some plain old 3 core 30/40 and now I have to put 8 coils to the spare jar. Sure I can vape them ... but I sure as shit aint sending them out to someone else.

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Dude, it happens to the best of us... It's happened to me, and I've literally made THOUSANDS of aliens. For a while, I actually couldn't even do 3x28/38 N80 aliens. I have no idea why.
 

MrMeowgi

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When you wake up at 6am thinking of aliens. Is it too early to wake the family? Lol on another note. I have a second drill and compared speed of each. My daily runs at 550rpm. The one I never thought about using runs at 1400rpm. I guess that solves my "this shit takes forever" problem.

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WPMac

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I need alien math.. I add the width of all the wire then I need to match that width to what ever size the clapton wire would be correct? Like a 4 ply fralien woul be 4x.1 plus the width of the frames. So I'd need like a 24g to clapton. I'll need bigger wire.

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Edit: just found the 3:1ratio math stuff.
You don't HAVE to stick to 3/1, though that is small as you can go. Lots of people do 3/1 and then subtract a gauge or 2 (i.e. 3 core 28g with a 26 gauge decore). The bigger the decore the less you stretch and the bigger the "S".
 

MrMeowgi

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You don't HAVE to stick to 3/1, though that is small as you can go. Lots of people do 3/1 and then subtract a gauge or 2 (i.e. 3 core 28g with a 26 gauge decore). The bigger the decore the less you stretch and the bigger the "S".
Ahh ok. It's all new to me here.butni looked at the alien thread and found good basics math for decore sizing.

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Well I complained to CrazyWire about a bad spool of .4 I got from them. They sent me a 2 replacement spools. Open them up and ......

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The other one is ok at least. I'd say something is wrong with their spooling machine that doesn't like .4 ribbon. Cause it's the only one that is always f'd up.

On the plus side they sent me some freebies as an apology. Just dug them out to look at them.
30g Ni90 - Been wanting to try some of this alloy so cool!
35g SS304 - An interesting gauge to play with. I'm going to use it on my next groovefused project :D
26g NiTi - After a quick google ... not exactly an alloy I should be vaping as far as I can tell. But I'm interested to see if/how it colors. So kind of cool?

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