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I hope they can offer different springs for 510, so my atomizers can have a gap with a good grip on the atty..

What's the deal with that anyway?

I set my temperature sensor off a few times when my atomizers were flush on IPV2..makes sense to keep a nice gap..
 

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I hope they can offer different springs for 510, so my atomizers can have a gap with a good grip on the atty..

What's the deal with that anyway?

I set my temperature sensor off a few times when my atomizers were flush on IPV2..makes sense to keep a nice gap..
I have heard someone else mention using the gap on their ipv2 for the same purpose.
 
Thats a great Idea, its a scratch magnet for sure! .... And to add yes "my carrot on a stick” touch sensor switch doesn’t work either. I can’t get past about 45 watts for a vape, its uncomfortably hot. Way overkill but for the price its sort of a bargain in Oct of this year.
 

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Maybe. Yet it makes no sense that the IPV2s has a functioning touch sensor. Not that big of a deal for me either way but it seems like if it is disabled internally then it should just be removed. It was brought up on eciggity FB page that maybe P4U was under the gun to ship something out and sent some sample units. Not sure if there is any truth to that but I will be watching with interest if other units that are shipped later have the feature functioning or not.

I dunno - that's that kind of what I thought looking at the inside of Bud's IPV3 - doesn't look like a final product at all..
 

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I think P4U is just pumping them out to keep up with the competition and not doing their best on making the best product possible , it sure seems like that anyway.

There were some complaints about the iPV 50 being rushed , shouldn't happen with it's successor .
 

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I think P4U is just pumping them out to keep up with the competition and not doing their best on making the best product possible , it sure seems like that anyway.

There were some complaints about the iPV 50 being rushed , shouldn't happen with it's successor .

That's exactly what they do - push out a product.. then gather all the complaints and release a version 2.. so the first people to buy always get screwed where as the people who wait a couple months get a better product.. Exactly why I wait before I buy these new box mods, and never do any pre-orders
 

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Hey gang. I received my Pioneer4You iPV3 150watt box mod in the mail today. I wanted to get some first looks out to those of you considering making this purchase. I hope this information helps a little bit. (Please forgive my photos. They are terrible, I know).
I will present you with my observations and whatever specifications I could gather here in this original post. In a few days after i use this box for a while I will post below (in a reply) my final OPINION about whether or not I think this box mod is worth it or not.
If you have specific questions that I might be able to answer about this box, please feel free to post. Thanks ALL!

Specs Minimum Typical Max
Output Power 7 Watts 150 Watts
Output Voltage 1 Volts 7 Volts
Output Current 40 A
Atomizer Resistance 0.1 Ohms 1.5 Ohms 3.0 Ohms
Input Voltage 6.2 Volts 3.7 Volts 8.5 Volts
Input Current 1.3 A 10.0 A 30.0 A
Screen On Current 25 mA
Quiescent Current 1 mA
Power Down Current 350 uA
Efficiency 95%
Screen size 0.69" OLED
Fire Method Regular Button & Touch Sensor
Adjust Power Method Up and Down Button
USB Charging for Battery NO (charge port)
Software Upgrade/GUI operate Upgradeable USB
Charging for Mobile Phone NO

SIZE comparison (see photos)
Ipv2 100mm tall x 50mm wide x 22mm thick (the ipv2s 60 watt is the same size)
Ipv3 105mm tall x 59mm wide x 23mm thick (shape is slightly different)
Just for comparison purposes:
Sigelei 100w dimensions: 102mm tall x 56mm wide x 23 mm thick
SMY God 180w dimensions: 119mm tall x 69mm wide x 30mm thick (3 18650’s)


Other Notable Differences:
  • The ipv3 uses two 18650 batteries. P4Y recommends using two IMR 30amp batteries and fully charged when installed (ie paired together).
  • The side buttons have been changed from a flattened BB style on the ipv2 to a more Hana type BB button that is now countersunk with polished edging (see photos)
  • The ipv3 box edging has been polished on the ipv3 (see photos).
  • The finish and paint on the ipv3 box seems slightly better
  • The ipv3 box material appears to be a bit thicker/stronger (which may add some weight)
  • The inside of the ipv3 box looks to be slightly redesigned with screws holding plastic casing in and some sort of seal inside the back door. (see photos)
  • The back plate has been redesigned. This may be to prevent e-liquid leaking into box battery door seam
  • There is a new hologram QC sticker inside and location has been changed
  • There are two larger set hex screws holding the back battery plate on (the ipv2 has two super tiny Phillips head screws). There are two Phillips head screws enclosed if you wish to swap them out.
  • The 510 connection on the ipv3 is now spring loaded (auto adjust)
  • The USB on the ipv3 is for firmware updates only (see the yihi website for download information http://www.yihiecigar.com/product_cat_list/YiHiEcigar-SX330-V3-S-150W-c20092.html)
  • There is a charge port on the side of the ipv3. The power/charging cord DOES NOT COME WITH IT at this time (but apparently can be purchased separately from P4Y at a later date). It appears to be a 9v 1amp size and aftermarket cords may work. (Proceed with caution.)
  • The ipv2s is supposedly water resistant. It is unsure, although the back seal looks similar and some vendors make this claim, that the ipv3 is also water resistant. (Proceed with caution.)
  • There is a 12-month warranty on this product if purchased through an authorized retailer. Warranty can be handled through Asmodus, a California company. (See warranty card enclosed in the ipv3 box). Please note… Asmodus recently changed their policy on return shipping cost. http://asmodus.com/warrantyinformation/pioneer4you.html :mad:


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I will try to post a few better pictures later... maybe the packaging and instruction booklet. I sort of rushed through this post to just get it out there to you. Again... I hope this helps.
Thanks for the update, and pics
 

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That's exactly what they do - push out a product.. then gather all the complaints and release a version 2.. so the first people to buy always get screwed where as the people who wait a couple months get a better product.. Exactly why I wait before I buy these new box mods, and never do any pre-orders
I don't think I will be rushing out to do any more Chinese pre-orders. I can see myself getting into one for something like a limited run 120w Raptor box mod though. The latter would still require some research as I am not looking to cough up the money with fears that the mod builder might not follow through and become a ghost.
 

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I don't think I will be rushing out to do any more Chinese pre-orders. I can see myself getting into one for something like a limited run 120w Raptor box mod though. The latter would still require some research as I am not looking to cough up the money with fears that the mod builder might not follow through and become a ghost.
So, would you recommend for, or against buying the IPV3?
 

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So, would you recommend for, or against buying the IPV3?
I recommend it in performance so far. The thing hits like it a champ. My issues were on the pre-order aspect. I know things change with pre-orders but with all the delays and changes I found it to be tiresome.

When I purchased the charging cord was listed as included, and is now a seemingly extra unicorn. The touch sensor was a feature that was listed, but now it seems that it is not even wired in. I assume the T.S was eliminated to make room for the charging port, but with neither of them being a thing at this time it just seems weak. I had little interest in the charging cord as I swap batteries but figured it would be nice to have. I did have plans to play around and decide if I wanted to use the touch sensor though.

My complaints are not towards the device at all so far, but rather with P4U with the way they seem to have a lackadaisical approach to communicating with their customers. P4U seems to have a disconnect in that regard. Don't get me wrong here I am not expecting a seemingly large company to be at my beckon call and answer every whimsical thing that pops into my head, but trying to get anyone to answer a seemingly straight forward question is a hassle.
 

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I recommend it in performance so far. The thing hits like it a champ. My issues were on the pre-order aspect. I know things change with pre-orders but with all the delays and changes I found it to be tiresome.

When I purchased the charging cord was listed as included, and is now a seemingly extra unicorn. The touch sensor was a feature that was listed, but now it seems that it is not even wired in. I assume the T.S was eliminated to make room for the charging port, but with neither of them being a thing at this time it just seems weak. I had little interest in the charging cord as I swap batteries but figured it would be nice to have. I did have plans to play around and decide if I wanted to use the touch sensor though.

My complaints are not towards the device at all so far, but rather with P4U with the way they seem to have a lackadaisical approach to communicating with their customers. P4U seems to have a disconnect in that regard. Don't get me wrong here I am not expecting a seemingly large company to be at my beckon call and answer every whimsical thing that pops into my head, but trying to get anyone to answer a seemingly straight forward question is a hassle.
Thank you!
There now seems to be an IPV3 Plus out. The only difference is that the touch sensor is active on that model. Can't discern from descriptions if that's the only difference, but I believe it is.
 

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Try vaporrange.com
I know I've seen it elsewhere, but can't find the link just now.
 

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I am not even sure if there is anything different with that unit. If the sensor actually works on it I will be contacting P4U. I was feeling suspect that P4U rushed it and was waiting to see if later batches had a working touch sensor.
 

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Well it looks like that is an exclusive version to that supplier.

Eciggity says "Hello, Vapor Range will be the only one carrying the "Plus" version as they are working with Pioneer4you to get this product out. We don't know what exactly they changed on their plus version but it seems the only thing different is the extra led light and the touch sensor active"

So if you are considering this unit, if you buy from Vapor Range you will have an operable touch sensor. In Eciggity's defense though they have been very helpful to me. I may not have liked all their answers but they never did tell me you are on your own after the sale, and that is worth it for me to deal with them again.

I think I will try and see how responsive P4U is and if that goes nowhere then I have no plans to buy from P4U again, even if this box has a miraculous life span.
 
For those wondering about the voltage/wattage of the IPV v3. It can only put out a max of 7 volts....... that's right, even with 2 freshly charged batteries at 4.25v each coming in at 8.5 volts, the device still will only pump out 7v even if the display shows the volts being higher.

What does this mean? Well if you have a .32ohm to .10 coil, you'll be able to get to 150 watts. However let's say you enjoy a .8ohm build, you'll only be able to max out at 61.25watts even though the device will say 150watts it's only putting out 61.25watts. 1.5 ohm coil.... even worse at 32.67watts.

The only devices I know of that can do a decent voltage are:

SMY God Mod at 12.6v down to .50ohm
Cloupor T8 at 14v down to .20ohm

I have a IPV v3 and I like it a lot but the low voltage limit is fricking stupid!!! I'll be getting a Cloupor T8 once I make sure they don't have the issues the T5 had.
 
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Sigelei 100(150-i dunno) Watt...same chip in IPV2 basically.. just higher current/wattage outputs.

Sorry you don't like it... but I already build low enough with my IPV2...I like my pressed wire.. and I won't do series quad coils with the IPV3.

But read your last statement...making sure a mod is safe to use isn't your responsibility. They/Clouper shouldn't be making mods/chips..I don't know about the smy god either.. every demo at ~180 Watts the wick bursts into flames..you have to select to vape below or above 80 Watts also.. kinda dumb, but there are some kinda neat features/gimmicks with that mod.
 

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I think you ought to contact them about this. You were promised something didn't receive.
P4U has for now pulled the plug on the "Plus" version. Maybe they realized it was a little to soon, best to wait another few weeks lol. The Vapor Range Plus product has been removed from their site.

every demo at ~180 Watts the wick bursts into flames..you have to select to vape below or above 80 Watts also.. kinda dumb, but there are some kinda neat features/gimmicks with that mod.
I wish those videos would stop being put out there as it just gives ammo for those that want our stuff outlawed.
 

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Thank you!
There now seems to be an IPV3 Plus out. The only difference is that the touch sensor is active on that model. Can't discern from descriptions if that's the only difference, but I believe it is.

This is unbelievable lol, if thats true that is truly outrageous . Offering a plus version that has something activated that was said to be functional on the standard iPV III , BS , i mean c, mon . P4U may be good at advertising but they are without a doubt , the undisputed kings of knowing how to piss off their current customer base "wow".

Whatever is said and promised in print when info on the device is first made known should be fully functional , period.
 
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This is unbelievable lol, if thats true that is truly outrageous . Offering a plus version that has something activated that was said to be functional on the standard iPV III , BS , i mean c, mon . P4U may be good at advertising but they are without a doubt , the undisputed kings of knowing how to piss off their current customer base "wow".

Whatever is said and promised in print when info on the device is first made known should be fully functional , period.
Herb? :)

I wish those videos would stop being put out there as it just gives ammo for those that want our stuff outlawed.

Well, bongs are legal..

You can't tell me I can't use this to heat my house, catch fish, or whatever. Nicotine is the only thing to worry about, but I personally want regulations.

They won't stop me anyway. Nicotine is easy, and it's in just about every vegetable..don't worry. With the amount of people like me, no one will stop vaping.. even if Marshall law was enforced to take all of our vape gear and liquid..
Edit-we'll get the love bus running again.. only this time, it will be pushing nicotine liquid, mods, and atomizers
 

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I have emailed P4Y repeatedly to draw attention to several key concerns I have about the iPV3. No reply.
I am considering starting a wall of shame thread to warn folks.
 

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Yeah..too bad I forgot about VU.. but I don't know why anyone preordered the IPV3 after the IPV preorders.. and they're just now having appropriate boxes made..

I admit it. I had faith that they would do it correctly this time around..but yeah, I should've known better..:/

At least I am too broke to afford preorders right now..

Who's going to preorder the ipv mini?lol
 

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Just got my IPV3 yesterday in the mail. Although it vapes well, this will be my first and last purchase from P4U. Not getting what was advertised when I ordered it is BS. I just hope I can find a charger that works with it. So I will be paying for something that I thought I was getting with the unit when I ordered it.

HD
 

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I got two ipv3 about 3 weeks ago. here is what i have discovered in that time...

The 510 on one of my ipv3 popped out while unscrewing an rda. Had to superglue it back.
My units came without serial number (straight from P4Y) so warranty is impossible (for me).
I have discovered some inconsistency in testing voltage, wattage, AND ohms read on box vs the actual with a meter.
The warranty was listed/advertised as 12 months but they changed the warranty card to now read 6 months.
(Then there is the whole Asmodus BS about paying a fee plus shipping both ways... dont even get me started.)
The unit is sold as having a touch fire but the inside of the box shows it isn't even connected to anything! WTF?
NOW they are about to supposedly release an IPV3"plus" that has a working touch fire and includes a working power port and power cord. The power cord is not included with my unit(s) and when attempting to charge with various aftermarket cords (based upon the P4Y specs given to me... which btw they keep changing their story) and nothing i try works. Beginning to think it isnt even wired properly to charge dual.

My opinion of P4Y is less than favorable right now as we are once again beta testing their units and then they quickly release an updated version that seems to work. (like they did with the ipv2 and ipv2-s). Am i being picky or should this be a "buyer beware" thread in the "Hall of Shame"?
 

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Sucks...

They definitely do take advantage of the people that are interested in possibly saving around $50 to not know what they're getting.. the IPV2 my friend is carrying is solid.. no issues like mine will come from it... but this is a big-long time from when they were released..bs.

I hate to admit..if elev8vape is getting a proper power cord and touch sensor..I'll be getting one.:/can't help it. And I really can't wait for the ipv mini..I should just make one though. Might as well..lazy..
 

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Sucks...

They definitely do take advantage of the people that are interested in possibly saving around $50 to not know what they're getting.. the IPV2 my friend is carrying is solid.. no issues like mine will come from it... but this is a big-long time from when they were released..bs.

I hate to admit..if elev8vape is getting a proper power cord and touch sensor..I'll be getting one.:/can't help it. And I really can't wait for the ipv mini..I should just make one though. Might as well..lazy..

no... they believe americans are weak minded fools...(documented statements)
they believe americans believe everything they read...(documented in a recent business interview)
put in print , "150 watt device", all the while knowing it is in actuallity a 50-60 watt device...
you are directly marketing to exactly what they believe and you all are proving them right, im afraid...

you can choose to change or you can continue to prove them right...
 

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dont own one , was commenting about everything negative everyone is finding and bitching about...adverised as having a touch sensor , shitty 510 and the list just goes on and on...
another example is the eleaf istick and the convoluted bad math calc's that havent been used in years... and the sx mini is advertised as a single 18650 battery 150 watt mod when in fact its only capable of 60 or 65 watts regulated single 18650, needs a dual or stacked setup for the 150 watts...
point is they have been pulling this crap for quite a while and the majority of vapers have'nt figured it out to this day...
 

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Do you mean the IPV mini?
http://forums.aussievapers.com/e-cigarette-vaporization-hardware-discussion/25913-mini-ipv.html
It's just an IPV2 in a smaller/different case.

Sx mini:
http://www.yihiecigar.com/products_info/YiHi-SX350-mini-283289.html

I didn't know anyone had made mods commercially with this chip yet?
I don't get only having 3 settings for wattage, but I'm interested if they are going to base it on joules.. man, that would be sick..aka temperature control..

I totally get the anger...but seriously, a lot of us got fucked with the IPV&IPV2 preorders..the case sucked..drop it, and your battery cover is like phil's(I think he dropped it before the review, wouldn't be surprised if he does that with a lot of stuff..and the 510 screw..HOLY FUCK.. Thankfully my vendor is stepping up, and they're just replacing mine.. unfortunately, I don't think all vendors, even mine, will do it for everyone.. I'll be getting the latest version, not the IPV2s, but it doesn't have the issues mine has.. better sealed cover. I don't know about the 510, but if it's a screw, they changed it.. because if they used the same one as mine, there would be way more reports of "ohms jumping randomly.." or "I just saw a fireball come out of my airhole.."

Yeah, I'm going to buy an IPV3, and probably an IPV mini or two- unless something with a large capacity battery pack in a smaller form is in the pipeline around Christmas.. Did I preorder the IPV3? Am I going to preorder anything out of country again? Edit-ok...elev8vape is not getting their IPV3's with touch sensor or a charging chord..so I probably won't get an IPV3.lol.. this inspires me to inquire about some sx330 v3.boards..but the sigelei's version of the 100watt board... squonk.squonk.

I did preorders like that twice- The first time and the last time...but they are one in the same.
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i recieved mine as well, this is going to sound weird, not sure if its just because it is my first box mod but i love it, with that being said three words come to mind CLASS ACT SETTLEMENT being sold something that was promised and not delivered is highway robbery we deserve free upgraded units or full refund back at no cost and we should get to keep the unit as a reminder of what it is happened here.
 
so i bought a charger from amazon i set it at 9v and one of the universal adapters did fit and the charging led indicator on the unit itself is on, although it seems to be working a part of me wants to disconnect it until i find out a little bit more about what the actual charger so that i do not mess my unit up because its only a day old. has anyone else found anything that works besides taking out the batteries and charging them
 
another question does anyone know if the ipv3 adjust itself to not burn your cotton if you adjust it to higher watts than your build can handle, it seems that is what mine is doing. the first rip is stong them mellows out a bit where it is tolerable enough so it does not burn the wick
 
another question does anyone know if the ipv3 adjust itself to not burn your cotton if you adjust it to higher watts than your build can handle, it seems that is what mine is doing. the first rip is stong them mellows out a bit where it is tolerable enough so it does not burn the wick

I've used an old 12v 500mah charger but I think I prefer pulling the batteries and charging them on a real charger. I don't know any mod that steps down like that. I know the ipv v3 definitely doesn't do that. The device can only output 7 volts so you can't go to high watts on high ohms. Which kind of ruins the device for me. I'd like to be able to fire at 75 or 80 watts on a 1 or 1.2 ohm build.
 

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P4Y is sending me a charge cord for 10.00.
He says it is 9volt 2 amp 3.5mm plug.
He recommended the Zenithink tablet charge cord (which i guess is the same)
 

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Heres one
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( I can't post the link) its easy to find only 7.99
 

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P4Y is sending me a charge cord for 10.00.
He says it is 9volt 2 amp 3.5mm plug.
He recommended the Zenithink tablet charge cord (which i guess is the same)
Polarity?..so we can use the appropriate configuration on those plugs you can use with everything.. forgot the term.
so i bought a charger from amazon i set it at 9v and one of the universal adapters did fit and the charging led indicator on the unit itself is on, although it seems to be working a part of me wants to disconnect it until i find out a little bit more about what the actual charger so that i do not mess my unit up because its only a day old. has anyone else found anything that works besides taking out the batteries and charging them
Yeah, it's a load of shit...

But how are we going to sue China?

-edit- no the IPV3 can not perceive/measure joules.. it just outputs a certain wattage. To confirm..put a dry piece of cotton in, and fire at 150 Watts.-

WW3.. started by pissed off vapers. Lol
There's no way in hell I'd charge my batteries at 2 amps on a regular basis.
Remember... there are two batteries..
 

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